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Old 07-22-2008, 05:12 PM
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Whats wrong with the Apostles understanding of what PREACH means? See why chase after other meanings.. when he made it clear what PREACHINg is
He is not defining preaching but rather instructing a young bishop on how he should do it ...

You really need to re-assess your hermeneutical foundations.
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Whats wrong with the Apostles understanding of what PREACH means? See why chase after other meanings.. when he made it clear what PREACHINg is
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Where are the instructed to PREACH THE GOSPEL?
If I take your logic to it's extreme than preaching the Gospel was only for the disciples ... and verses in which he commissions them like Matthew 28 only apply to them ... and not us.
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Still waiting on the Greek and Hebrew words for preaching.

And why this verb only applies to males.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:19 PM
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If preaching the Gospel means to proclaim the good news (and it does) why are women prohibited? Proclaiming the Gospel doesn't just take place behind a pulpit, it comes in books, and songs too.
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I donīt plan on getting into a debate about women in ministry...
I do know a precious couple that once evangelized and he got to listening to WB tapes and stopped his wife from preaching and today he is not even really in church...or faithful to say the least...
She never preached again...their ministry was ruined...She is a precious lady...I have always wondered what she will say in judgment to the ONE who called?

It is easy to say God doesnīt call...another thing to be a woman and KNOW you are called...Woe is me if I do not obey my Lord that called. So at the cost of being laughed at, being joked about...many tears of mine are at the foot of the cross begging Him to release me from the call...but it is still there.

Of course I believe about women in ministry different than anyone on this forum...so that puts me at double odds...I believe everyone is called to preach...Acts 8:4,5 tells us that the men and women that Saul did not drag off to prison went everywhere preaching the word of God...
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:25 PM
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Look, have you ever known me to make a big deal over spelling and grammar before?

I understand we make errors. At least I know I do.

But to present yourself as super-educated, and then show a complete ignorance of the fundamental laws of grammar, is frustrating to me.
Hey bro, im just making a joke.

fact is, it wouldn't matter how many degrees I got, I would never be able to spell very well.... but my grammar generally is within general tolerances......
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I donīt plan on getting into a debate about women in ministry...
I do know a precious couple that once evangelized and he got to listening to WB tapes and stopped his wife from preaching and today he is not even really in church...or faithful to say the least...
She never preached again...their ministry was ruined...She is a precious lady...I have always wondered what she will say in judgment to the ONE who called?

It is easy to say God doesnīt call...another thing to be a woman and KNOW you are called...Woe is me if I do not obey my Lord that called. So at the cost of being laughed at, being joked about...many tears of mine are at the foot of the cross begging Him to release me from the call...but it is still there.

Of course I believe about women in ministry different than anyone on this forum...so that puts me at double odds...I believe everyone is called to preach...Acts 8:4,5 tells us that the men and women that Saul did not drag off to prison went everywhere preaching the word of God...
You go Sister A.!

I agree with you that it is difficult, I am a woman who wants nothing more than to please the Lord. The calling on my life did not make sense to me, I had been raised in the teachings that abound on this thread, and I am not someone who likes dissention. When My Pastor and Husband told me that I was running from a call, that stopped me cold. I now wait on the Lord, sometimes my preaching takes place in chapel at school, sometimes in my classroom, sometimes on the phone, sometimes in writing, sometimes at church, sometimes on the street, and always to my children!

But becuase of bias, I wouldn't refer to myself as a "preacher" I just refer to myself as 'a child of the King who likes to do what she is told by Him'
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If preaching the Gospel means to proclaim the good news (and it does) why are women prohibited? Proclaiming the Gospel doesn't just take place behind a pulpit, it comes in books, and songs too.
Absolutely ... proclaiming (kerusso, in the Greek) .... the Gospel can be done in many ways other than what our modern paradigm has made it to be ... therefore this is preaching also ...

The problem, Baron, is that a Levitical model still persists in the minds of many in the Church ...

No reasonable argument can be made that we are not all to proclaim ... or preach the Gospel ...

Unless the fundamentalist would like to insist that the Great Commission does not apply to all and does not apply to us today.

Our present value of a preacher is that he's a male behind the pulpit ... and so faulty thinking will lead to only men preach ... and of course its w/ a tie behind a pulpit .... and that preaching has a gender attached to it ....

It's a verb.
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I donīt plan on getting into a debate about women in ministry...
I do know a precious couple that once evangelized and he got to listening to WB tapes and stopped his wife from preaching and today he is not even really in church...or faithful to say the least...
She never preached again...their ministry was ruined...She is a precious lady...I have always wondered what she will say in judgment to the ONE who called?

It is easy to say God doesnīt call...another thing to be a woman and KNOW you are called...Woe is me if I do not obey my Lord that called. So at the cost of being laughed at, being joked about...many tears of mine are at the foot of the cross begging Him to release me from the call...but it is still there.

Of course I believe about women in ministry different than anyone on this forum...so that puts me at double odds...I believe everyone is called to preach...Acts 8:4,5 tells us that the men and women that Saul did not drag off to prison went everywhere preaching the word of God...
I think I put up a pretty good defense for women in ministry.
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I thank God for Lady men of God! (that is an Epleyism joke dont be mad at me)

my great grandmother was one, and without her, I would not be saved today!
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