With out holiness no man shall see GOD

[brodano]

what is true holiness? where do we draw the line ? what is of the world. we all want to see His Face. TELEVISION, BEARDS, LONG HAIR, WOMENS UNCUT HAIR, SHORT SLEVES, LONG DRESSES, NO SHORTS, GOING TO THE MOVIES. AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.... TRUE HOLINESS IS SEPERATION FROM THE WORLD.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by brodano

what is true holiness? where do we draw the line ? what is of the world. we all want to see His Face. TELEVISION, BEARDS, LONG HAIR, WOMENS UNCUT HAIR, SHORT SLEVES, LONG DRESSES, NO SHORTS, GOING TO THE MOVIES. AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.... TRUE HOLINESS IS SEPERATION FROM THE WORLD.

Holiness is a pure heart . real holiness is always accompanied
with humility. If you see someone who has all the standards
down pat but they are mean and prideful, then it's not true
holiness but rather merely religion.

why did you cap all the standards that you listed ?
just wondering

[Rico]

Originally Posted by brodano

what is true holiness? where do we draw the line ? what is of the world. we all want to see His Face. TELEVISION, BEARDS, LONG HAIR, WOMENS UNCUT HAIR, SHORT SLEVES, LONG DRESSES, NO SHORTS, GOING TO THE MOVIES. AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.... TRUE HOLINESS IS SEPERATION FROM THE WORLD.

Good luck convincing Jesus He is worldly because he has a beard. Lemme know how that works out for you.

[Rico]

Brodano, now that I think about it, I would very much like to see some scripture for everything on your list. Pick each one and give your scriptural support for believing it's worldly. If they are personal convictions you have that's fine. Just say so. Otherwise, show me the BOOK and nothing but the BOOK.

[Rhoni]

Holiness is taking on the nature and character of Jesus Christ. This happens when you are filled with His Spirit and walk submitted to His will. The fruits of the Spirit will be evident in your life. You will think like Christ, act like Christ, and Dress like Christ.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Holiness is taking on the nature and character of Jesus Christ. This happens when you are filled with His Spirit and walk submitted to His will. The fruits of the Spirit will be evident in your life. You will think like Christ, act like Christ, and Dress like Christ.

Too simple...




You forgot:
You will not go bowling.
You will not play organized sports.
You will not....

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Holiness is taking on the nature and character of Jesus Christ. This happens when you are filled with His Spirit and walk submitted to His will. The fruits of the Spirit will be evident in your life. You will think like Christ, act like Christ, and Dress like Christ.

I totaly agree with this but to many the extension of this walk is how they react to the world around us. Not getting caught up in all the worldly life styles etc... Thus much what you see them say they believe in many cases is not in the bible but an extension of a principle. You know the run down. I am not saying any of the above is a sin. I just think that people that follow a preference in lifestyle to separate themselves unto him gets bashed way to much. I am liberal and conservative per what many believe is ok or wrong. I see on this forum many who sit back don't realize that the Law of the Spirit is much deeper than the Mosaic Law ever would go. It was limited to 613 but the Spirit wil lead and guide you into ALL truth which is every aspect of our daily life.
Thus many choose to seperate themselves sadly not by Godly conviction but by conviction of others. Are many of these rules bad, like not having a television or Jewelry or makeup etc... No as long as you don't beat your brother or sister down with it. Most of early church history women did not wear jewelry or makeup and it was not looked postively on. So it's not like this is only Oneness Ap's that have ever believed such.

Do I need Bible for some convictions directly WORD for WORD from a didactic presentation? NO! If the Spirit leads it leads but he won't contradict the law or lead to sin.

I agree you will be submitted to his will and that is the LAW of the Spirit. As you would agree don't beat your brother with what God gives you.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Rhoni

Holiness is taking on the nature and character of Jesus Christ. This happens when you are filled with His Spirit and walk submitted to His will. The fruits of the Spirit will be evident in your life. You will think like Christ, act like Christ, and Dress like Christ.

Also holiness is not just fruits ofthe Spirit. To do as God has commanded reflects his will. Eating of blood for example is not a fruit of the Spirit but it is clearly something God does not want you to do. Be ye Holy as I am Holy this is a response to God's Laws and it is something we do. It's not just something that is imputed to us but a response to him. Many OSAS teach nothing you do is righteousness or holy before God and that is a lie. Your faith(which is a proper repsonse to God's Word) is always considered holiness as it reflects him.

[POWERUP]

All that I'm going to say is......... And I Quote the very conserative Jeff Arnold at Impact Conference a couple of years ago." These Guys don't know what Holliness is, so I will tell you. It Aint no Dresscode!!!!!


Oh, and by the way. These Guys were all the Guys sitting on the platform!!!

If you want to hear the message, you could go to Woodlawn UPC website, and order the DVD.

I believe JEDI goes to Woodlawn. You could ask him. You got to get the DVD. Its worth watching the one preacher jump up all by himself, when the Rev. said it. And finally everyone else stands.

Name of the message is " What Hell Really Wants From You"

Great Church(Woodlawn) Great Message.

[LUKE2447]

Sure holiness is in dress. To reflect God's will (distinction of dress between male and female) is always holiness. Holiness is reflecting God in every aspect not just one aspect of your life.