Hell and suicide? - Page 8

crakjak · #71 05-12-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Then what's the use of even serving God?

What?

It is better in every way, in this life and the life to come. We are not saved some mythical torture chamber we are saved from the "wages" of sin, that being death.

Just because everyone will eventually be saved, doesn't mean there is not a cost for living an ungodly life. There is the refining fire to remove all the chaff and dross, though it will have an end, does not mean it will be pleasant.

JDN1972 · #72 05-12-2009, 11:09 PM

I would like to weigh in on this matter. First I want every one to know that as born again christian's we should pray every chance we get that the spirit of violence,(inward and outward) be bound and cast into outer darkness, knowing that the days of his return are sooner than we think. We should also realize that it's hard to imagine any demonic force being totally bound. As for myself being filled with the holy ghost, I have and are still going thru things that make me wish for death. I used to drive a tow truck and was really depressed about things and would think about stepping out into traffic daily, But did not. Please understand there are millions of people that go thru things we could never imagine ourselves going thru. Yet they still cope and try to make things better for themselves. My main concern is that christians should spend more time in prayer, than wondering who the devil is going to take next! I REBUKE THAT SPIRIT OF TOLERANCE!!!!! If a man dies of natural causes without Christ we know where he is to spend forever, then why should make exception for those whose lives havn't been as smooth as ours. Where do we draw the line?

John 6:60 (King James Version)

60;Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

shawndell · #73 05-13-2009, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JDN1972

I would like to weigh in on this matter. First I want every one to know that as born again christian's we should pray every chance we get that the spirit of violence,(inward and outward) be bound and cast into outer darkness, knowing that the days of his return are sooner than we think. We should also realize that it's hard to imagine any demonic force being totally bound. As for myself being filled with the holy ghost, I have and are still going thru things that make me wish for death. I used to drive a tow truck and was really depressed about things and would think about stepping out into traffic daily, But did not. Please understand there are millions of people that go thru things we could never imagine ourselves going thru. Yet they still cope and try to make things better for themselves. My main concern is that christians should spend more time in prayer, than wondering who the devil is going to take next! I REBUKE THAT SPIRIT OF TOLERANCE!!!!! If a man dies of natural causes without Christ we know where he is to spend forever, then why should make exception for those whose lives havn't been as smooth as ours. Where do we draw the line?

John 6:60 (King James Version)

60;Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

I love your picture it brings to mind who holds the keys to death,hell.and the grave.You are right we need to run to Jesus.He is our savior and hes strong enough to over come any thing!

BrotherEastman · #74 05-13-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Hello, Easty, nice to hear from you, hope everything is well with you and yours.

Thank you my friend. All is well.

BrotherEastman · #75 05-13-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by shawndell

Who said we look through a glass darkly.Its so hard to see with these human eyes,and only understand in part what shall be.My mind fights so hard for understanding,and then im left with broken peices with witch i cant place together that makes any since.Then theres the fear of not understanding what is truth in time to make it to heaven!!DEATH IS TO BE FEARED!!!!!!

If one's heart is right, then death should be embraced my sister, not feared.

BrotherEastman · #76 05-13-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Then what's the use of even serving God?

The use in serving God is because you love him, not because there is some torturous punishment waiting to consume you without end.

I think Crak believes that God is a consuming fire, and that even though there is a punishment for the wicked, all will eventually be redeemed. I'm not sure I agree with Crak, although his belief does not seem to contradict biblical doctrine on the matter which makes me think twice about disagreeing with him.