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06-06-2009, 01:05 PM
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If "Apostolic" refers to those who stick to the NT for their doctrines, people who believe in one, true God, baptize in Jesus' name, and believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost, the gifts of the spirit, etc., then I'd say there are a LOT of Apostolics on this forum. That doesn't mean they get the most airtime, but I think they're adequately represented--enough to call this the "Apostolic Friends Forum."
Now, if you only define Apostolic by those who hold to certain standards of dress--well, then you do have a problem. I think Apostolic is based on core doctrines regarding the identity of God and what constitutes salvation. Not sleeve length or whether someone wears open-toed shoes.
I do believe that Apostolic encompasses conservatism, in that we should interpret scriptures conservatively--as close to the original meaning as possible, without broad interpretations and expansion. A simple, face value approach.
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06-06-2009, 01:09 PM
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LOL! So, I provided definitions from two different dictionaries above and you ask me to define it? 
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So that definition was in your mind when you joined?
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06-06-2009, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
If "Apostolic" refers to those who stick to the NT for their doctrines, people who believe in one, true God, baptize in Jesus' name, and believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost, the gifts of the spirit, etc., then I'd say there are a LOT of Apostolics on this forum. That doesn't mean they get the most airtime, but I think they're adequately represented--enough to call this the "Apostolic Friends Forum."
Now, if you only define Apostolic by those who hold to certain standards of dress--well, then you do have a problem. I think Apostolic is based on core doctrines regarding the identity of God and what constitutes salvation. Not sleeve length or whether someone wears open-toed shoes.
I do believe that Apostolic encompasses conservatism, in that we should interpret scriptures conservatively--as close to the original meaning as possible, without broad interpretations and expansion. A simple, face value approach.
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There is constant posting of the very opposite on here as you have defined. The Apostolics sure are quiet if they are on here?
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06-06-2009, 01:14 PM
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Seems dissing of standards is quite doctrinal around here.
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06-06-2009, 01:17 PM
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There is constant posting of the very opposite on here as you have defined. The Apostolics sure are quiet if they are on here? 
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The conservative "Apostolics" jumped ship, so to speak, because they either were too tired of defending their beliefs or couldn't give a good response to those other apostolics who have a much more liberal bent.
And then there are others who take the plunge into forum discussion judiciously.
I think a few others have taken a holiday like TR France.
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06-06-2009, 01:19 PM
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The conservative "Apostolics" jumped ship, so to speak, because they either were too tired of defending their beliefs or couldn't give a good response to those other apostolics who have a much more liberal bent.
And then there are others who take the plunge into forum discussion judiciously. 
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Forget the lib and con thing. I wonder how many on here go to an Apostolic church?
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06-06-2009, 01:20 PM
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The conservative "Apostolics" jumped ship, so to speak, because they either were too tired of defending their beliefs or couldn't give a good response to those other apostolics who have a much more liberal bent.
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Or maybe they found they couldn't unscramble eggs.
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06-06-2009, 01:20 PM
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Forget the lib and con thing. I wonder how many on here go to an Apostolic church?
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I go to a church with a couple of UPC licensed ministers.
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His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently.  Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-06-2009, 01:21 PM
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So that definition was in your mind when you joined?
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I think when I joined that I viewed the word Aposotlic as Miss Brat does above. Meaning, more varied and less monolithic than your narrow brand.
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06-06-2009, 01:22 PM
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Or maybe they found they couldn't unscramble eggs. 
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They cloistered themselves like the monastic saints of the past. So much for salt and light.
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