ACTS.2:38 Main Message Or Altar Call ?

kclee4jc · #1 02-23-2011, 08:34 PM

The Gopsel?
I Corinthians 15:2-4
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

Repentance-Death
Baptism-Burial
Resurrection-Holy Ghost infilling

TGBTG · #2 02-23-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc

The Gopsel?
I Corinthians 15:2-4
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

Repentance-Death
Baptism-Burial
Resurrection-Holy Ghost infilling

You did not answer the question. What is the gospel?

kclee4jc · #3 02-23-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

You did not answer the question. What is the gospel?

Read the verse...the Gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection.

TGBTG · #4 02-23-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Read the verse...the Gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection.

Death, burial, and Resurrection of who?

kclee4jc · #5 02-23-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

Death, burial, and Resurrection of who?

Jesus Christ...with which we identiry. Ya know, we are buried with him by baptism...

TGBTG · #6 02-23-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Jesus Christ...with which we identiry. Ya know, we are buried with him by baptism...

Ok, How about your analogy of:

Repentance - Death
Baptism - Burial
Holy Ghost infilling - Resurrection

How does your analogy fit in the case of Cornelius in Acts 10. Why was Cornelius buried since he had already resurrected?

kclee4jc · #7 02-23-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

Ok, How about your analogy of:

Repentance - Death
Baptism - Burial
Holy Ghost infilling - Resurrection

How does your analogy fit in the case of Cornelius in Acts 10. Why was Cornelius buried since he had already resurrected?

Chronological order is irrelevant. If we were speaking of a physical death, burial, and resurrection that would be different.

I received the Holy Ghost 4 years before i was baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ. If i had not received the Holy Ghost i would have never been led to truth concerning baptism. It was His Spirit that led me.

TGBTG · #8 02-23-2011, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

The Gopsel?
I Corinthians 15:2-4
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

Repentance-Death
Baptism-Burial
Resurrection-Holy Ghost infilling

I think you meant to have:
Repentance-Death
Baptism-Burial
Holy Ghost infilling-Resurrection

So according to you in Acts 10, this is what happened:
Cornelius died
Cornelius resurrected after he died
Cornelius was buried after he resurrected ??

kclee4jc · #9 02-23-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

I think you meant to have:
Repentance-Death
Baptism-Burial
Holy Ghost infilling-Resurrection

So according to you in Acts 10, this is what happened:
Cornelius died
Cornelius resurrected after he died
Cornelius was buried after he resurrected ??

Sure...in a spiritual sense. God didnt seem to have a problem with it that way.

noeticknight · #10 02-23-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc

The Gopsel?
I Corinthians 15:2-4
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

Repentance-Death
Baptism-Burial
Resurrection-Holy Ghost infilling

(1 Corinthians 15:13-18)

"But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished."

The good news is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is the truth that He became our Savior. A Savior to believe in, not just to imitate. And if Christ’s sacrifice was that of some great prophet or teacher, it would not be enough. If “Christ be not raised, your faith is vain;” as would be your obedience.

The Gospel is the “good news” and the “glad tidings” of what He did (1 Corinthians 15:10). The credibility of our faith is dependent on His work, not our own per se.