A Relevant Holiness Message

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I'm sorry, but I find that odd that you are friends with him on Facebook - immediate contact, but you choose to talk about him here. That is just very strange to me. I wouldn't do that to one of my friends at Facebook. No wonder I limit my contacts there.

Think it not odd. I have hundreds of friends on Facebook. It doesn't mean I interact with them on a regular basis--some not at all. I keep a bunch of them hidden so I don't have to see their posts in my news feed.

RM and I have known each other since we were teens and even did some youth camps together as evangelists in the early 90's. We both had a bunch of mutual friends and somewhere along the line we became FB friends. As far as I can remember, we have NEVER conversed on FB, nor have we ever posted on each others profiles.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

Thin it not odd. I have hundreds of friends on Facebook. It doesn't mean I interact with them on a regular basis--some not at all. I keep a bunch if them hidden so I don't have to see their postrs in my news feed.

RM and I have known each other since we were teens and even did some youth camps together as evangelists in the early 90's. We both had a bunch of mutual friends and somewhere along the line we became FB friends. As far as I can remember, we have NEVER conversed on FB, nor have we ever posted on each others profiles.

I am sorry, T1. If it was anyone else but you, I wouldn't have thought a thing of it. Your siding with Daniel and his YouTube post just seems out of character for you. You've always come across to me as so mild mannered, it just threw me for a loop. LOL! Maybe I don't read all of your posts or something? LOL!

RM sees you talking here and knows you are on his friends list. It just seems that if you wanted to talk to him about this, you would contact him personally. He doesn't have to be the first one to step up. It's his church. He is the pastor and he doesn't have to answer to outsiders, IMO.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I am sorry, T1. If it was anyone else but you, I wouldn't have thought a thing of it. Your siding with Daniel and his YouTube post just seems out of character for you. You've always come across to me as so mild mannered, it just threw me for a loop. LOL! Maybe I don't read all of your posts or something? LOL!

RM sees you talking here and knows you are on his friends list. It just seems that if you wanted to talk to him about this, you would contact him personally. He doesn't have to be the first one to step up. It's his church. He is the pastor and he doesn't have to answer to outsiders, IMO.

PO, I just saw the two videos together and it struck me. First, I have not judged RM's character not do I think he is a hypocrite, if that makes you feel better. I am mild mannered on the forum. I hate debates and I don't like to fight. Sorry I threw you.

I don't want to talk to him about this outside of DA's video compliation and the discussion forum. It really isn't something that I want to go one on one. I would love to discuss this together with a group of objective thinkers.

Again, If he had never participated on this forum, discussing issues, ideas, doctrine, and stuff then I would be like, "Hey, this is a lynching." But DA posted it here, where RM is and where he has the opportunity to discuss it. This is where I have posted concerning it for the most part. Why? Because I know he is lurking it. I'm not bashing him behind his back. I am posting right out here in the open and my identity is not hidden from him.

I'm not bashing him at all. I simply saw a contradiction between the two sermons and felt it was worth talking about. If you're going to be so adamant about how evil that preacher was and tear him down publically, God help you if it happens in your church the next week...maybe God was showing RM something...touch not mine anointed goes both ways.

Besides the fact that he had no mercy on the preacher he referenced in his sermon. I have watched some of his other sermons online and he doesn't have a problem verifying his stand by villifying other preachers...including his former pastors, the Jones brothers and their church Grace.

Oh well, the retoric has taken any desire out of me to really discuss the true issue which is...."What do you do when a huge contradiction in messages takes place in your church?"

Now I remember why I took so much time off from here......

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

PO, I just saw the two videos together and it struck me. First, I have not judged RM's character not do I think he is a hypocrite, if that makes you feel better. I am mild mannered on the forum. I hate debates and I don't like to fight. Sorry I threw you.

I don't want to talk to him about this outside of DA's video compliation and the discussion forum. It really isn't something that I want to go one on one. I would love to discuss this together with a group of objective thinkers.

Again, If he had never participated on this forum, discussing issues, ideas, doctrine, and stuff then I would be like, "Hey, this is a lynching." But DA posted it here, where RM is and where he has the opportunity to discuss it. This is where I have posted concerning it for the most part. Why? Because I know he is lurking it. I'm not bashing him behind his back. I am posting right out here in the open and my identity is not hidden from him.

I'm not bashing him at all. I simply saw a contradiction between the two sermons and felt it was worth talking about. If you're going to be so adamant about how evil that preacher was and tear him down publically, God help you if it happens in your church the next week...maybe God was showing RM something...touch not mine anointed goes both ways.

Besides the fact that he had no mercy on the preacher he referenced in his sermon. I have watched some of his other sermons online and he doesn't have a problem verifying his stand by villifying other preachers...including his former pastors, the Jones brothers and their church Grace.

Oh well, the retoric has taken any desire out of me to really discuss the true issue which is...."What do you do when a huge contradiction in messages takes place in your church?"

Now I remember why I took so much time off from here......

Thanks T1. I understand you a little better on this.

If I was RM or anyone else, I wouldn't give DA the time of day. That clip on YouTube was totally a low down move, IMO. A personal attack. I wouldn't answer him at all. That tactic doesn't make for decent debate. Glad he got it removed for copyright infringement.