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Old 04-16-2011, 05:34 AM
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The early church displayed organization...
Paul was all about organization.
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Re: Organized Religion Is Spiritual Welfare

Organized religion is a big, weeping, painful boil on the rear end of Christianity.

I am way waiting for the people to stand up and say "We are disorganized religion, come join us"

but if we did that, would we be organized?
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Organized religion is a big, weeping, painful boil on the rear end of Christianity.

I am way waiting for the people to stand up and say "We are disorganized religion, come join us"

but if we did that, would we be organized?
They've already done that. They called it non-denominational.
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The early church displayed organization...
Organized religion is a phrase that takes on a meaning beyond simply doing things in an organized manner versus shear disorganization.
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:15 PM
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Re: Organized Religion Is Spiritual Welfare

Isn't "disorganized religion" an oxymoron? The first church was organized. They organized each local congregation with offices such as elders, pastors and deacons.

The entire church was organized under the Apostles

Most relgions (as opposed to a religious view) are organized
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Isn't "disorganized religion" an oxymoron? The first church was organized. They organized each local congregation with offices such as elders, pastors and deacons.The entire church was organized under the Apostles

Most relgions (as opposed to a religious view) are organized
Excellent point. Most people who have a problem with "organized religion" have a problem with one of two things. The concept of absolute truth or the concept of submitting to a hire power of authority. I will say this...there are those who have been so injured by false systems of organized religion that they are burnt out. Line it up to the Word, try the spirits to see whether they be of God before jumping on board. The early church is our example.
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Excellent point. Most people who have a problem with "organized religion" have a problem with one of two things. The concept of absolute truth or the concept of submitting to a hire power of authority. I will say this...there are those who have been so injured by false systems of organized religion that they are burnt out. Line it up to the Word, try the spirits to see whether they be of God before jumping on board. The early church is our example.
Did you mean higher power or was hire power a pun?
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Did you mean higher power or was hire power a pun?
aha...yeah that was supposed to be higher power. My mind was way ahead of my fingers..lol. The pun would fit in some cases tho!
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Re: Organized Religion Is Spiritual Welfare

Some who do not believe in the pastor setup have a elders set up...but have seen abuse under both systems...

Human nature wants to control others...that is why we need balance...and people with a good set of brains!
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Some who do not believe in the pastor setup have a elders set up...but have seen abuse under both systems...

Human nature wants to control others...that is why we need balance...and people with a good set of brains!
I believe the pastor should have the authority in his church without a board of elders within the church to rule over him. However, if that particular pastor does not have a man of God or men of God in his life to lead him then he has no hedge. Everyone needs someone to be in submission to. Everyone needs a leader and a voice who can speak with wisdom when one's vision is blurred.
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