A "Forward" Glimpse Into The Future?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

"Hi, come visit our church and when you get here the TV you are now watching this will have to be thrown out"

Some of these Evangelism arguments are so silly. The muslims don't advert on TV- they are the fastest growing religion. The TV issue was settled in 1950, and affirmed again in 1981.

I know of a large church that does NO outreach. They knocked thousands of doors in the beginning, 10 yrs ago, but now have enough continous contact that they still do not need TV to see growth.

Is this true? I have never heard of such as a requirement for membership.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Is this true? I have never heard of such as a requirement for membership.

Create them as we go ....

[Kutless]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Is this true? I have never heard of such as a requirement for membership.

I would say that is probably because of 2 things.

1. The pastor does not have the backbone to preach what he has signed to preach.

2. If he did 3/4 of the congregation would leave.


But hey maybe churches need a little pruning in order to have revival.

[Kansas Preacher]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Is this true? I have never heard of such as a requirement for membership.

I am quoting from the Articles of Faith:

We wholeheartedly disapprove of our people indulging in any activities which are not conducive to good Christianity and godly living, such as theaters, dances,mixed bathing or swimming, women cutting their hair, make-up, any apparel that immodestly exposes the body, all worldly sports and amusements, and unwholesome radio programs and music. Furthermore, because of the display of all these evils on television, we disapprove of any of our people having television sets in their homes. We admonish all of our people to refrain from any of these practices in the interest of spiritual progress and the soon coming of the Lord for His church.

Furthermore, I quote from the General Constitution:

No minister having a television in his or her home shall be permitted to hold license or credentials with the United Pentecostal Church International. Furthermore, no United Pentecostal Church International minister shall be permitted to advertise or minister on television. This does not preclude unsolicited representatives of the news media covering functions.

Does that answer your question?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

I am quoting from the Articles of Faith:



Furthermore, I quote from the General Constitution:



Does that answer your question?

First I need to affirm what "the DA" said,

"Clearly the former statement from the AOF shows disapproval ... and not prohibition ..... The latter is a clear prohibition for ministers only."

Second, I am puzzled as to what this means concerning the majority in the UPC who have and watch TV, myself NOT included. In the twenty plus years I have been attending a UPC church I have yet to recieve any written instruction, recommendation, mandate concerning television.

Lastly, KP do not mistake my comments as being pro television en toto. The same people who say they "don't have time" and funds to bear and raise offspring often spend untold hours absorbing junk. We live in a selfish age.

In Jesus, Stephen

[Kansas Preacher]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

First I need to affirm what "the DA" said,

"Clearly the former statement from the AOF shows disapproval ... and not prohibition ..... The latter is a clear prohibition for ministers only."

Second, I am puzzled as to what this means concerning the majority in the UPC who have and watch TV, myself NOT included. In the twenty plus years I have been attending a UPC church I have yet to recieve any written instruction, recommendation, mandate concerning television.

Lastly, KP do not mistake my comments as being pro television en toto. The same people who say they "don't have time" a funds to bear and raise offspring often spend untold hours absorbing junk. We live in a selfish age.

In Jesus, Stephen

DA is correct that the articles of faith do not give a prohibition for saints, and there is a reason -- the AOF have no authority OVER the saints. The UPCI is a ministers' organization. It is clear, however, that when an organization "wholeheartedly disapproves" of an activity, they want its members (the ministers -- who ARE under the prohibition against television) to establish that prohibition for THEIR members (the saints).

As to your second question, I, too, am puzzled. The biannual affirmation statement clearly states that I, as a member of the UPCI will abide by AND PREACH what is in the Articles of Faith. How men can sign this and then not do what they pledge to do is beyond me. As harsh as it sounds, I call that LYING.

Lastly, I make no assumptions concerning your personal feelings on the subject. I was simply trying to answer your question.