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Old 07-11-2013, 01:28 PM
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Re: List of grace giving churches.

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If I were in Decatur I would visit for sure. Sounds like a place I would enjoy.

I am however in Ohio. You and Rudy raise an interesting point about starting churches that go against the current. The problem is, I'm not so sure about doing it. I am in a very strong, stable, large church. It is a very good church in most ways. Now, I have a real problem with the tithing nonsense and some of the "standards" (that our Pastor admits to us ministers are just tradition, but he will not stop preaching b/c he feels he doesnt have the right to remove the lines the previous leaders of our movement have put up), but it is still a great church.

So do I leave a very good church that is stable and I can be saved in, just to start a small home meeting or church just over tithing and a couple standards? Do I take my children out of a church where they have a fantastic childrens program and tons of kids to a church where it may be just them alone? And how do I convince my wife, who loves the church and tends to always only see the good in things like church, that we would be better off starting a church or group that doesn't preach garbage like tithing? If shes not on board with it, then it's going to be next to impossible.

It's easy to say "just start a church that doesn't preach that stuff", or even "go find another church", but in reality...it's not easy at all. I have hoped that I could change the church from within, but I know that is not the case in these areas.
This is one of the reasons why there are so many denominations in Christianity. one person does not like one doctrine that is preached in their church and off goes to create a new denomination that does not teach that doctrine.
In a way it is good for the more churches there are the more outreach is done to the lost, but sometimes it becomes bad when the anti-this go on a rampage against the pro-this or vice versa.
So are we going to have a new Apostolic denomination that does not teach tithing? then after that what will be the next split?
A house divided can not stand.

First of all I will not stop preaching tithing, but on the same token I do not think we should throw out of the church people who do not believe in tithing, it is simply a disagreement over doctrine.
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