Tithing…Is it a command?

[Sean]

Still, brother, there is no verse in any of your passages that we are to tithe to the ministry. Not one shred of scripture. It only says that they are "partakers" of the sacrifices given to the altar.
The pattern we see subsequently in the early church is ministry becoming partakers of the benevolence of the saints to one another. Adding tithing into the passage is a complete assumption and thereby a fabrication(lie).
Also, the calling we have does not set us apart as "priests" to our fellow "Royal Priesthood Saints"(we are not sub-priests to a middle priest) . That is only in our minds but not Biblical. Jesus alone is our only priest.
This concept you are implying is the very concept of "LORDSHIP" that the Lord Jesus FORBID us to have over one another.
The tithe is essentially in our days, the equivalent of a "salvation tax". I heard Jerry Jones call it that very thing years ago at Landmark.(it must have slipped while he was preaching).

[HRea]

Originally Posted by Sean

Also, the calling we have does not set us apart as "priests" to our fellow "Royal Priesthood Saints"(we are not sub-priests to a middle priest). That is only in our minds but not Biblical. Jesus alone is our only priest. This concept you are implying is the very concept of "LORDSHIP" that the Lord Jesus FORBID us to have over one another.

My brother, I am baffled by who might have taught you concerning how God Himself has established and setup the kingdom of God and what scriptures they used. You keep pushing back against the scriptures as though they were my words. They are not my words nor my concept. Ephesians 4:11-16 and 1 Corinthians 12:28 speak expressly of God setting up the ministry and why He did it.

You have begun to use phrases in your responses which causes me to think that you did not read the scriptures that I included. This is not a concept in some man's mind, but the scripture says that God established the ministry.

Minister <> Lordship. Whoever told you that the minister is your Lord had no Biblical basis for such a claim.

Originally Posted by Sean

Still, brother, there is no verse in any of your passages that we are to tithe to the ministry. Not one shred of scripture. It only says that they are "partakers" of the sacrifices given to the altar.

In this part of your response causes me to understand that many misunderstand Old Testament tithing. In a nutshell Old Testament tithing:
- Holy unto the Lord
- Between the children of Abraham and the Lord
- The Lord chose to provide for the Levites from the tithes

Too often people make the jump that tithes are to the ministry, which they are not. Tithes are to God, and God chose to provide for the ministry from the tithe. (Numbers 18:24, Numbers 18:21)

[Sean]

Originally Posted by HRea

My brother, I am baffled by who might have taught you concerning how God Himself has established and setup the kingdom of God and what scriptures they used. You keep pushing back against the scriptures as though they were my words. They are not my words nor my concept. Ephesians 4:11-16 and 1 Corinthians 12:28 speak expressly of God setting up the ministry and why He did it.

You have begun to use phrases in your responses which causes me to think that you did not read the scriptures that I included. This is not a concept in some man's mind, but the scripture says that God established the ministry.

Minister <> Lordship. Whoever told you that the minister is your Lord had no Biblical basis for such a claim.




In this part of your response causes me to understand that many misunderstand Old Testament tithing. In a nutshell Old Testament tithing:
- Holy unto the Lord
- Between the children of Abraham and the Lord
- The Lord chose to provide for the Levites from the tithes

Too often people make the jump that tithes are to the ministry, which they are not. Tithes are to God, and God chose to provide for the ministry from the tithe. (Numbers 18:24, Numbers 18:21)

My brother, respectfully, my posts are going right over your head. You or I DO NOT HAVE A PRIEST ON EARTH OVER US designated for our tithes. The congregation IS NOT a type of Israel and the ministry IS NOT a type of the Levites. Thats totally false.
If a man is charging me 10+% of my income to be a disciple of Jesus, he is LORDING over me. Just like our govt. charges us taxes. They OWN us until the day we die.
How do you give God tithes in the N.T. Church age we live in?....Please show me this verse. I have heard this verseless teaching for 35 years and counting. All I need is 1 New Testament verse that tells us that when we tithe to the N.T. ministry, we are tithing to Jesus. Just 1. Maybe even 1 verse that says God is actually recieving tithes. You just implied that brother...respectfully.