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10-06-2014, 06:14 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Brother, these guys are covinced in their minds, without scripture of course, that the pastors are a type of OT priests(levites) and we are Israel(spiritually lower on the totem pole)....
This is completely bogus and belittling of the calling of us all..... 1 Peter 2:9
9 But ye(we) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that we (us) should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
Revelation 1:6
And hath made us(you and I) kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Their teachings place themselves in a mediator role between us and God.... 1 Timothy 2:5
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
These men actually believe that they are some kind of higher calling than us and a link to get blessings from the Lord.....LOL
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Let me state this clearly, I do not tithe to the Church, nor do I tithe to my Bishop. I tithe as unto the Lord. It is an act of obedience and worship. And, despite my family going through hard right now, I am still worshiping and being obedient to the tithe. Why? Because something my Bishop said, or something some prosperity preacher said? No, because I look at the Cross, and see my life, and Jesus is worth it.
Now, please understand the difference between tithing and offerings. I give an offering as unto the Lord as well, and He does bless this as well. I support the man and woman of God through my offerings to them as unto the Lord, because a workman is worthy of his/her hire. As a minister, I do not elevate myself. No. I hold myself to a higher standard, a stronger standard. Therein is the difference. I am no mediator. I am simply someone who God has called to use where I am where He wants me to be how He wants.
Sean, I do not know who hurt you. I wish they would repent of this before you, and come and ask forgiveness. I do pray, however, that God would allow your heart as well to be humbled before Him so that He would minister healing and hope more than you ever thought possible.
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10-06-2014, 09:17 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by UnTraditional
Let me state this clearly, I do not tithe to the Church, nor do I tithe to my Bishop. I tithe as unto the Lord. It is an act of obedience and worship. And, despite my family going through hard right now, I am still worshiping and being obedient to the tithe. Why? Because something my Bishop said, or something some prosperity preacher said? No, because I look at the Cross, and see my life, and Jesus is worth it.
Now, please understand the difference between tithing and offerings. I give an offering as unto the Lord as well, and He does bless this as well. I support the man and woman of God through my offerings to them as unto the Lord, because a workman is worthy of his/her hire. As a minister, I do not elevate myself. No. I hold myself to a higher standard, a stronger standard. Therein is the difference. I am no mediator. I am simply someone who God has called to use where I am where He wants me to be how He wants.
Sean, I do not know who hurt you. I wish they would repent of this before you, and come and ask forgiveness. I do pray, however, that God would allow your heart as well to be humbled before Him so that He would minister healing and hope more than you ever thought possible.
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Brother, this may sound foreign to you. But if you DENOUNCE tithing publically, the LORD JESUS will help you with your financial situation. I did that very thing and the exact thing happened to me!
Give it a try, the Lord want to bless you, but MALACHI stands in your way.
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10-06-2014, 09:23 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by Sean
Brother, this may sound foreign to you. But if you DENOUNCE tithing publically, the LORD JESUS will help you with your financial situation. I did that very thing and the exact thing happened to me!
Give it a try, the Lord want to bless you, but MALACHI stands in your way.
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Sean you put your self in the place of God to say who will God is going to bless for doing certain things. This man tithing is personal and as he has said he does it unto the Lord not man. You are doing the same thing that you are accusing tithe preachers of doing. You are telling them they are going to hell for tithing and that God isn't going to bless them unless they stop. You are very mixed up. God maybe working something in untraditional's life that may be the reason for his hardships right now. Life isn't always going to be good. There are going to be times of prosperity and times of famine in life. this is natural.
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10-06-2014, 09:29 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by good samaritan
Sean you put your self in the place of God to say who will God is going to bless for doing certain things. This man tithing is personal and as he has said he does it unto the Lord not man. You are doing the same thing that you are accusing tithe preachers of doing. You are telling them they are going to hell for tithing and that God isn't going to bless them unless they stop. You are very mixed up. God maybe working something in untraditional's life that may be the reason for his hardships right now. Life isn't always going to be good. There are going to be times of prosperity and times of famine in life. this is natural.
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Nope, I am just trying to get his head screwed on straight and NOT try to manipulate our God into rebuking the devourer of Malachi. When he realizes that, the Lord CAN actually bless him. The Lord does not want to "trick" him into thinking the Law, which is ended for the believer, is "blessable"
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10-06-2014, 09:38 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Nope, I am just trying to get his head screwed on straight and NOT try to manipulate our God into rebuking the devourer of Malachi. When he realizes that, the Lord CAN actually bless him. The Lord does not want to "trick" him into thinking the Law, which is ended for the believer, is "blessable"
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Sean look back and see how many times the curse in malachi is mentioned over the last several pages of this thread. I don't believe it is being mentioned. I have been telling you and others that it is good to tithe and not that it is mandatory for salvation. There is no curse being thrown around except you saying that if untraditional will quit tithing his curse will be lifted.
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10-06-2014, 02:12 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by good samaritan
Sean look back and see how many times the curse in malachi is mentioned over the last several pages of this thread. I don't believe it is being mentioned. I have been telling you and others that it is good to tithe and not that it is mandatory for salvation. There is no curse being thrown around except you saying that if untraditional will quit tithing his curse will be lifted.
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What I am saying, to clarify, is for UNTRADITIONAL to NOT quote Malachi in prayer and ask the Lord to rebuke the devourer(as we see done in church service weekly). The Lord will not hear that prayer. Trust me, I tried it and the Holy Ghost just shut me down!
The Lord dealt with me immediately as I was reading the passage to Him, NOT to quote the Law to Him and ask Him to honor it.
The Lord wanted me to quote the N.T. promises to be blessed. I did it and it works!
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10-06-2014, 10:20 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by UnTraditional
Let me state this clearly, I do not tithe to the Church, nor do I tithe to my Bishop. I tithe as unto the Lord. It is an act of obedience and worship. And, despite my family going through hard right now, I am still worshiping and being obedient to the tithe. Why? Because something my Bishop said, or something some prosperity preacher said? No, because I look at the Cross, and see my life, and Jesus is worth it.
Now, please understand the difference between tithing and offerings. I give an offering as unto the Lord as well, and He does bless this as well. I support the man and woman of God through my offerings to them as unto the Lord, because a workman is worthy of his/her hire. As a minister, I do not elevate myself. No. I hold myself to a higher standard, a stronger standard. Therein is the difference. I am no mediator. I am simply someone who God has called to use where I am where He wants me to be how He wants.
Sean, I do not know who hurt you. I wish they would repent of this before you, and come and ask forgiveness. I do pray, however, that God would allow your heart as well to be humbled before Him so that He would minister healing and hope more than you ever thought possible.
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Where do you go to church now? Do you have a blog?
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10-06-2014, 01:37 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus
Where do you go to church now? Do you have a blog?
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I attend Holy Temple Deliverance Church here in Houston. My ministry web site is in my signature. Thanks.
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10-25-2014, 10:21 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by UnTraditional
I attend Holy Temple Deliverance Church here in Houston. My ministry web site is in my signature. Thanks.
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Your blog says you go to Victory something or other?
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11-03-2014, 02:55 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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I attend Holy Temple Deliverance Church here in Houston. My ministry web site is in my signature. Thanks.
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I read your testimonies Brother Price, God is good!!!!
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