Scoffers on AFF

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

Second Peter 3 & AD70
A Litmus Test for Hyper-Preterism?

"He sets forth the destruction of that cursed Nation and their City in those terms that Christ had done, Matt. 24. and that the Scripture doth elsewhere, Deut. 32.22,23.24. Jer. 4.23. namely as the destruction of the whole world, The heavens passing away, the elements melting, and the earth burnt up, &c. And accordingly speaks of a new heaven and a new earth, from Isa. 65.17. a new state of the Church under the Gospel among the Gentiles, when this old world of the Jews state should be dissolved." (John Lightfoot, Westminster Assembly Divine)...https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...QP-WMzj491Ry9A





WOW folks, he actually thinks Peter was saying this!!!

Mike, do you agree with these guys?

[Sean]

More preterist imaginary reinterpretation of the words "heaven and earth"....

Introduction

In this article we examine II Peter 3:7-13 and decide that the heavens and earth that were marked for destruction involved considerably more than merely Old Testament Judaism, Jerusalem, and the temple.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...2e7J4wR0BzqE3A

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Sean

More preterist imaginary reinterpretation of the words "heaven and earth"....

Introduction

In this article we examine II Peter 3:7-13 and decide that the heavens and earth that were marked for destruction involved considerably more than merely Old Testament Judaism, Jerusalem, and the temple.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...2e7J4wR0BzqE3A

Mike, is this what you believe also?

[shazeep]

well, what if he is right? you can't prove he is wrong. it is a pov. what if some of it is right? and lastly, if none of it is right, how does this change a believer's walk?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, what if he is right? you can't prove he is wrong. it is a pov. what if some of it is right? and lastly, if none of it is right, how does this change a believer's walk?

The standard consensus of opinion is the apostolic Fathers(founders) died and the scoffers declare nothing has changed.

If you believe these preterist reinterpretations of 2 Peter 3, then you think that the LAST DAYS ended in 70ad, and the 2nd coming is not going to happen as a "thief in the night".

This has a big time impact on those that are waiting for the return of Jesus Christ and the sinner world observing us.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Sean

This has a big time impact on those that are waiting for the return of Jesus Christ...

ok, how, other than in what you believe might have happened in the past?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, how, other than in what you believe might have happened in the past?

bump

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Sean

This has a big time impact on those that are waiting for the return of Jesus Christ and the sinner world observing us.

I'm not disagreeing. There are no wrong answers. I just want to see it verbalized. What is the impact? anyone

[Sean]

A typical preterist Bible study night....LOL....

2 Peter 3 that I judge we have overlooked perhaps a third “Heaven and Earth” looming in the background of those verses.
It appears many have failed to recognize that there have been two previous “Heavens and Earths” that have been destroyed and replaced with a third and final everlasting “Heavens and Earth”. I think a closer investigation of 2 Peter 3 will reveal this previously overlooked one which is presumably the first ”Heaven and Earth”
It seems we have been so preoccupied with refuting our partial preterist and dispensationalist brethren in utilizing 2 Peter 3 that I judge we have overlooked perhaps a third “Heaven and Earth” looming in the background of those verses.
It appears many have failed to recognize that there have been two previous “Heavens and Earths” that have been destroyed and replaced with a third and final everlasting “Heavens and Earth”. I think a closer investigation of 2 Peter 3 will reveal this previously overlooked one which is presumably the first ”Heaven and Earth”....
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...pVCGERZSYNUlnA

[shazeep]

i have a question for you. Did we get a new earth and new heavens after the flood?