Scoffers on AFF - Page 37

Sean · #1 10-06-2015, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sean, I have heard this preached for years, erroneously of course.

Define "That".

You define "that" as Jesus. Jesus is not a "That" He is a "Who".

The problem with your thinking is that you are parroting the line of the dipees who have went before you.

You have a definition problem with this verse.

Study out "That" and get back to us.

"That" is Jesus and His subsequent Millennial kingdom.....

Look at chapter 1 of the same book....

1 Corinthians 1King James Version (KJV)

1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;

5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;

6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:

7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Monterrey · #2 10-06-2015, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean

"That" is Jesus and His subsequent Millennial kingdom.....

Look at chapter 1 of the same book....

1 Corinthians 1King James Version (KJV)

1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;

5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;

6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:

7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Nope. Wrong again Sean.

Study out "that" that is going to be matured. Perfect means mature. It is not Jesus and His millenial kingdom. Jesus is already perfect,.

Study Sean, Study.

Keep trying, you'll come to it.

Sean · #3 10-06-2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Monterrey

Nope. Wrong again Sean.

Study out "that" that is going to be matured. Perfect means mature. It is not Jesus and His millenial kingdom. Jesus is already perfect,.

Study Sean, Study.

Keep trying, you'll come to it.

Monterrey, are you telling us that tongues will cease when we spiritually mature?

Do you really want me to study that kind of teaching?

I guess I better find some Church of Christ folks to teach me this doctrine, huh?

Godsdrummer · #4 10-06-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Now Shag, look at this....

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

When Jesus returns to Millennial Israel, then the perfect One(Jesus) will cause the(partial) Gifts of the Spirit to cease!

If you are going to quite scripture Sean don't add words that are not in the text. It does not say "perfect one", neither does the text say that the gifts of the spirit will be caused to cease. It simply says that which in part shall be done away with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sean, I have heard this preached for years, erroneously of course.

Define "That".

You define "that" as Jesus. Jesus is not a "That" He is a "Who".

The problem with your thinking is that you are parroting the line of the dipees who have went before you.

You have a definition problem with this verse.

Study out "That" and get back to us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean

"That" is Jesus and His subsequent Millennial kingdom.....

Look at chapter 1 of the same book....

1 Corinthians 1King James Version (KJV)

1 Paul called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:

3 Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

4 I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ;

5 That in every thing ye are enriched by him, in all utterance, and in all knowledge;

6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:

7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Again you are grasping at straws, and adding to the text what is not there, nowhere does Paul allude to a millennial kingdom nor to the end of the world.

Monterrey · #5 10-06-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

If you are going to quite scripture Sean don't add words that are not in the text. It does not say "perfect one", neither does the text say that the gifts of the spirit will be caused to cease. It simply says that which in part shall be done away with.

Again you are grasping at straws, and adding to the text what is not there, nowhere does Paul allude to a millennial kingdom nor to the end of the world.

Amen.

shazeep · #6 10-06-2015, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Monterrey

Define "That". Jesus is not a "That" He is a "Who".
Study out "That" and get back to us.

ha, good point.

Monterrey · #7 10-06-2015, 10:38 AM

Doubter doubter two by four, couldn't get through the dispee door!

LOL

shazeep · #8 10-06-2015, 10:42 AM

nice Gd

Sean · #9 10-06-2015, 07:16 PM

Okay guys, class is in session....

Subject...the Gifts of the Spirit and the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ...

1 Cor 1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Subject....The Gifts of the Spirit and the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ....

13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known

Thanks for your attention class, you are dismissed.

Evang.Benincasa · #10 10-06-2015, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean

Okay guys, class is in session....

Subject...the Gifts of the Spirit and the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ...

1 Cor 1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:

8 Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Subject....The Gifts of the Spirit and the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ....

13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known

Thanks for your attention class, you are dismissed.

Sean don't you remember that you flunked this class in the eschatology section of this forum? 1st Corinthians 13 isn't talking about eschatology, but something you lack greatly which is the Love of God working through you to bring you to maturity. You are just a hate filled religious sop, who can't stand being wrong. Therefore instead of being a defender of the faith, you are just a defender of Sean.