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10-11-2015, 05:30 PM
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Loren Adkins
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
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If you were faced with the choice, I am sure you would accept His kingdom offer beforehand!
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The choice has always been before all mankind, but is it any wonder so many choose not to enter the kingdom with people like you putting stipulations that Christ never did on entering his kingdom.
Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
You are straining at gnats while swallowing a camel.
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10-11-2015, 09:49 PM
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6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Howbout that?
If Jesus is not physically reigning, then neither are WE!
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Oh how you read things into verses that aren't there, and then demand us to show the exact words "dual nature" in the bible.
Nothing you showed says Jesus rules when physically on earth. The truth is he already rules over every name there is from his place in heaven at the right hand. If he has all power now over this world he already rules then there's nothing left remaining for him to rule over.
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10-11-2015, 10:03 PM
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
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Oh how you read things into verses that aren't there, and then demand us to show the exact words "dual nature" in the bible.
Nothing you showed says Jesus rules when physically on earth. The truth is he already rules over every name there is from his place in heaven at the right hand. If he has all power now over this world he already rules and there's nothing left remaining for him to rule over.
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John 18:36
Jesus answered, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD; if it were, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jews. But now, My kingdom is NOT OF THIS REALM."
Luke 17:20-21
Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God IS IN YOUR MIDST."
Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy IN THE HOLY GHOST.
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10-12-2015, 09:42 AM
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
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John 18:36
Jesus answered, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD; if it were, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jews. But now, My kingdom is NOT OF THIS REALM."
Luke 17:20-21
Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God IS IN YOUR MIDST."
Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy IN THE HOLY GHOST.
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10-12-2015, 03:25 PM
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
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10-12-2015, 06:39 PM
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
John 18:36
Jesus answered, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD; if it were, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest by the Jews. But now, My kingdom is NOT OF THIS REALM."
Luke 17:20-21
Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God IS IN YOUR MIDST."
Romans 14:17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy IN THE HOLY GHOST.
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Sean can't deal with the scripture?
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10-12-2015, 07:58 PM
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
Sure, the Kingdom of God is going to expand to ALL the living when Jesus returns!!!
Easy as pie!
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10-12-2015, 08:20 PM
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
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Sure, the Kingdom of God is going to expand to ALL the living when Jesus returns!! Easy as pie!
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Interesting, so since it is found within as spiritual (as the scriptures attest) does it expand within the believer some time in the future?
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10-12-2015, 10:31 PM
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
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Interesting, so since it is found within as spiritual (as the scriptures attest) does it expand within the believer some time in the future?
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As a matter of fact, yes!
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
When Jesus raptures us and returns with His saints, the "partial" gifts we operate in will cease and we are going to see Him face to face!!!
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10-12-2015, 10:49 PM
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Re: Scoffers on AFF
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As a matter of fact, yes!
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
When Jesus raptures us and returns with His saints, the "partial" gifts we operate in will cease and we are going to see Him face to face!!!
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Oh, I'm so sorry, but weren't you corrected on your poor interpretation of 1 Corinthians 13 and that it has nothing to do with eschatology?
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