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[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Sean

No, the same old earth just reemerged as the water dissipated. Heaven also remained heaven.

well, but Scripture says the old earth was destroyed; and the released raven tells me that the old heaven prolly was, too?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ok, how, other than in what you believe might have happened in the past?

bump

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Sean

This has a big time impact on those that are waiting for the return of Jesus Christ and the sinner world observing us.

I'm not disagreeing. There are no wrong answers. I just want to see it verbalized. What is the impact? anyone

[shazeep]

i am wracking my brain to come up with any?

[shazeep]

i'm not sure how a Posterist deals with Christ's "I assure you: There are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."

which might help to clarify this; but i suggest (don't know) that the difference might be one of mindset, and therefore not easy to verbalize--however, i see a reflection in today's brain pickings that might address this
https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/0...dweck-mindset/
even if it does not answer these questions directly. (i suspect it might)

so, pick a question:
what is the impact?
how do Posterists deal with Christ's quote?
which view, Preterist/Posterist, might you associate with which mindset in the article? if any

[randyabrown]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, but Scripture says the old earth was destroyed; and the released raven tells me that the old heaven prolly was, too?

I don't want to read anything into it that's not there, but this seems to imply we're still on the first earth:

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. (Rev. 21:1 KJV)

[shazeep]

ya, i guess it was destroyed by water, but not yet by "fire." but i think a point is that it is dangerous to get married to an opinion, and start excluding all other opinions. If the earth "became void" at the beginning of Genesis--a valid reading--we might be on some fifth "earth," for all anyone knows--or at least third. The "elements melting" will happen when the sun goes nova, in a couple billion years or whatever.

how does a posterist interpret Christ's quote? i have no idea, and would like to know. Do you just ignore it, or what?

[shazeep]

Sean, with all due respect, don't you think these are questions you should be able to answer, if you are going to hold the position you do? Or have i turned you Preterist?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by randyabrown

I don't want to read anything into it that's not there, but this seems to imply we're still on the first earth:

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. (Rev. 21:1 KJV)

Thank you Randy, finally a voice of sanity!

[Sean]

[QUOTE=shazeep;1392421]i'm not sure how a Posterist deals with Christ's "I assure you: There are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom."

The kingdom Jesus spoke of arrived in Acts 2.....minus one Apostle....Judas.