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Old 09-26-2015, 11:43 AM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up

Whatever the original intent for the meeting with your friend, DB, I'm glad that you were able to part on good terms.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:15 PM
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If that mutual friend called to warn you someone was on their way to kill you, would that just be hearsay. How is it hearsay when the potential killer has made his plans known to the one who warned you?

So we go from being rebuked to being murdered? ROFL What a stretch of the imagination!
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Old 09-26-2015, 05:32 PM
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So we go from being rebuked to being murdered? ROFL What a stretch of the imagination!
He said it was hearsay for his friend to call him and warn him about the college buddy even after the college buddy has personally told his friend of his intentions. So why would it not be hearsay in the murder scenario I suggested?
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Old 09-26-2015, 06:42 PM
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Deacon, sadly some of our dearest friends will not understand when we follow the path to which we feel that God has directed us-especially if it differs from there's. Don't be discouraged, I am sure your friend MEANT well, even if he flubbed on attitude and delivery. Your long time friend did you a service by letting you be prepared for your visit. As far as the critics go, I guess I would say to them -Your walk is just that YOURS.... and mine is my own. I appreciate transparency in people but your friend would have been better off-if he felt burdened to pray-to pray for you alone, instead of trying to telegraph a message to the saints when he did his walk through. What wisdom in the old lyrics "tell it to Jesus alone".
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Old 09-26-2015, 07:52 PM
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Deacon,

I am going to be in Memphis on a short business trip sometime in the next three weeks and I am hoping to meet you to rebuke you and straighten you out! I really enjoyed the last time a year or two ago (I lose track of time).
You BETTER look me up!
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Old 09-26-2015, 07:58 PM
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It's always interesting to study a group dynamic.

Deacon has been a part of AFF since its inception. He posted an interesting commentary about his fears, failures, relationships and journey.

Predictably, the responses fall under two categories: "He's no longer one of us so he's a lying gossip with an ax to grind" or "Gee, interesting story. Happy to hear you're doing well, Deacon."

Warnings from best friends don't happen frequently, in my experience. Only a fool ignores them.

Glad you're happy and well, Deacon.
Thanks for assuming the best in me C.
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:00 PM
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Deacon, sadly some of our dearest friends will not understand when we follow the path to which we feel that God has directed us-especially if it differs from there's. Don't be discouraged, I am sure your friend MEANT well, even if he flubbed on attitude and delivery. Your long time friend did you a service by letting you be prepared for your visit. As far as the critics go, I guess I would say to them -Your walk is just that YOURS.... and mine is my own. I appreciate transparency in people but your friend would have been better off-if he felt burdened to pray-to pray for you alone, instead of trying to telegraph a message to the saints when he did his walk through. What wisdom in the old lyrics "tell it to Jesus alone".
Pastor S---truer words have never been spoken.
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:07 PM
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I just can't fathom not having any relationship with someone for nearly 30 years and then decide to just drop in to rebuke them---and making leaps in logic based on a 30 minute phone call.

My best friend who is like a brother to me would not steer me wrong. I would trust him to raise my children if I were to die. I guess because I'm not a conservative or consider myself a OP, the conservatives on here want to jump on the judgment band wagon and assume the guy was following God's lead and I am the prodigal needing the rebuke.

Sorry guys but you all are waaaay off on your assessment.
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:11 PM
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I just can't fathom not having any relationship with someone for nearly 30 years and then decide to just drop in to rebuke them---and making leaps in logic based on a 30 minute phone call.

My best friend who is like a brother to me would not steer me wrong. I would trust him to raise my children if I were to die. I guess because I'm not a conservative or consider myself a OP, the conservatives on here want to jump on the judgment band wagon and assume the guy was following God's lead and I am the prodigal needing the rebuke.

Sorry guys but you all are waaaay off on your assessment.
The homers always want to defend the indefensible and try to flip things around.
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The homers always want to defend the indefensible and try to flip things around.
It's bad that I talk about it here even though I mention no names or specifics. My motive for sharing the story was to encourage those like me to not react to being judged with vitriol but with kindness. It was also to ask those who feel compelled to judge to rethink how they deal with others who have left the movement.
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