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Old 09-26-2015, 08:11 PM
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I just can't fathom not having any relationship with someone for nearly 30 years and then decide to just drop in to rebuke them---and making leaps in logic based on a 30 minute phone call.

My best friend who is like a brother to me would not steer me wrong. I would trust him to raise my children if I were to die. I guess because I'm not a conservative or consider myself a OP, the conservatives on here want to jump on the judgment band wagon and assume the guy was following God's lead and I am the prodigal needing the rebuke.

Sorry guys but you all are waaaay off on your assessment.
The homers always want to defend the indefensible and try to flip things around.
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Old 09-26-2015, 08:44 PM
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The homers always want to defend the indefensible and try to flip things around.
It's bad that I talk about it here even though I mention no names or specifics. My motive for sharing the story was to encourage those like me to not react to being judged with vitriol but with kindness. It was also to ask those who feel compelled to judge to rethink how they deal with others who have left the movement.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:45 PM
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It's bad that I talk about it here even though I mention no names or specifics. My motive for sharing the story was to encourage those like me to not react to being judged with vitriol but with kindness. It was also to ask those who feel compelled to judge to rethink how they deal with others who have left the movement.
What ?

If the story you told is correct, then the Man you think came to rebuke you and obviously did not. Showed himself a gentleman. You are accusing him of being two-faced and a liar. Because you're believing what your friend told you instead of what actually happened at that restaurant. Its obvious that your best friend didn't know what that guy was going to say.

I think it's very honorable if a man has a burden for somebody that he would come to him and express that very thing. Why would that be a bad thing, why would that be something to all the sudden now turn it negative towards the conservative movement?

This post if you would be honest with yourself and with everybody else here was nothing more than to put another knife in the back of every good man of God that has a backbone to stand for anything. It's obvious you are still bitter because of some offense that is happened to you, or else you would've contacted that man personally to hear what he has to say to you. Instead of mocked about it here.

In my time I have talked to many like you and I have given them what I felt in the spirit to say, some it is helped and they have prayed back through to the Holy Ghost. Some continue to live their life and go on to be reprobate. And in my heart of hearts I have wept much and prayed much, over people backing out from things they once believed.

It's obvious also by everyone that agreed with you or commend you for the story that you shared with us. That they too are in danger of having their conscience seared with a hot iron. I would welcome anybody to come to me if I was backing away or letting down or compromising. To come to me with a sincere spirit and warn me. I would then sincerely search my soul, but I wouldn't post it here.

The Lord rebuke you sir.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:53 PM
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The Lord rebuke you sir.
Seriously?
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Old 09-27-2015, 02:29 AM
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Seriously?
Well,
The guy heard he was gonna get rebuked, he talked about getting rebuked, was scared about getting rebuked, judging people who rebuked...
So I just got him real good got it over with.
He had it coming.
That's all.
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Old 09-27-2015, 02:48 AM
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Well,
The guy heard he was gonna get rebuked, he talked about getting rebuked, was scared about getting rebuked, judging people who rebuked...
So I just got him real good got it over with.
He had it coming.
That's all.
Telling him "The Lord rebuke you" was for kicks and giggles?
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Old 09-27-2015, 10:35 AM
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Telling him "The Lord rebuke you" was for kicks and giggles?
No, he had it coming.
EB is a pro at response, it was funny to me.
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Telling him "The Lord rebuke you" was for kicks and giggles?
THIS made me howl!!!!!!!!
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This post if you would be honest with yourself and with everybody else here was nothing more than to put another knife in the back of every good man of God that has a backbone to stand for anything. It's obvious you are still bitter because of some offense that is happened to you, or else you would've contacted that man personally to hear what he has to say to you. Instead of mocked about it here.
After this post I think I know what the J.A. stands for! If no one has told you this before let me be the first to tell you that you are quite the drama queen (or king).

Putting a knife in the back of every good man of God? Good grief!
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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What ?

If the story you told is correct, then the Man you think came to rebuke you and obviously did not. Showed himself a gentleman. You are accusing him of being two-faced and a liar. Because you're believing what your friend told you instead of what actually happened at that restaurant. Its obvious that your best friend didn't know what that guy was going to say.

I think it's very honorable if a man has a burden for somebody that he would come to him and express that very thing. Why would that be a bad thing, why would that be something to all the sudden now turn it negative towards the conservative movement?

This post if you would be honest with yourself and with everybody else here was nothing more than to put another knife in the back of every good man of God that has a backbone to stand for anything. It's obvious you are still bitter because of some offense that is happened to you, or else you would've contacted that man personally to hear what he has to say to you. Instead of mocked about it here.

In my time I have talked to many like you and I have given them what I felt in the spirit to say, some it is helped and they have prayed back through to the Holy Ghost. Some continue to live their life and go on to be reprobate. And in my heart of hearts I have wept much and prayed much, over people backing out from things they once believed.

It's obvious also by everyone that agreed with you or commend you for the story that you shared with us. That they too are in danger of having their conscience seared with a hot iron. I would welcome anybody to come to me if I was backing away or letting down or compromising. To come to me with a sincere spirit and warn me. I would then sincerely search my soul, but I wouldn't post it here.

The Lord rebuke you sir.
OMGosh! Lol!

The guy had "so much I want to say to you"---he told my best friend everything he planned to say. But I had to leave, I had 15 minutes to give him. He had no time to unload on me. He held back because of a lack of time and because my best friend rebuked him and told him to not dare say any of the things he was planning to say to me. MY TRUE FRIEND told him to do nothing but love me. But his prayers at the church said enough that my saints could tell he had an ulterior motive. Face it, not everyone who claims to be Apostolic represents the movement well, nor do they know how to deal with people who are an enigma to them.

As far as what you posted above---you are clueless about my situation.
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