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09-26-2015, 09:45 PM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
It's bad that I talk about it here even though I mention no names or specifics. My motive for sharing the story was to encourage those like me to not react to being judged with vitriol but with kindness. It was also to ask those who feel compelled to judge to rethink how they deal with others who have left the movement.
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What ?
If the story you told is correct, then the Man you think came to rebuke you and obviously did not. Showed himself a gentleman. You are accusing him of being two-faced and a liar. Because you're believing what your friend told you instead of what actually happened at that restaurant. Its obvious that your best friend didn't know what that guy was going to say.
I think it's very honorable if a man has a burden for somebody that he would come to him and express that very thing. Why would that be a bad thing, why would that be something to all the sudden now turn it negative towards the conservative movement?
This post if you would be honest with yourself and with everybody else here was nothing more than to put another knife in the back of every good man of God that has a backbone to stand for anything. It's obvious you are still bitter because of some offense that is happened to you, or else you would've contacted that man personally to hear what he has to say to you. Instead of mocked about it here.
In my time I have talked to many like you and I have given them what I felt in the spirit to say, some it is helped and they have prayed back through to the Holy Ghost. Some continue to live their life and go on to be reprobate. And in my heart of hearts I have wept much and prayed much, over people backing out from things they once believed.
It's obvious also by everyone that agreed with you or commend you for the story that you shared with us. That they too are in danger of having their conscience seared with a hot iron. I would welcome anybody to come to me if I was backing away or letting down or compromising. To come to me with a sincere spirit and warn me. I would then sincerely search my soul, but I wouldn't post it here.
The Lord rebuke you sir.
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09-26-2015, 09:53 PM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by J.A. Perez
The Lord rebuke you sir.
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Seriously?
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09-27-2015, 02:29 AM
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NW Acts 2:38 Son
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Seriously?
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Well,
The guy heard he was gonna get rebuked, he talked about getting rebuked, was scared about getting rebuked, judging people who rebuked...
So I just got him real good got it over with.
He had it coming.
That's all.
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Im just doing my best, untill I learn to do better. Thank God I'm not what I used to be!
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09-27-2015, 02:48 AM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by J.A. Perez
Well,
The guy heard he was gonna get rebuked, he talked about getting rebuked, was scared about getting rebuked, judging people who rebuked...
So I just got him real good got it over with.
He had it coming.
That's all. 
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Telling him "The Lord rebuke you" was for kicks and giggles?
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09-27-2015, 10:35 AM
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NW Acts 2:38 Son
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by houston
Telling him "The Lord rebuke you" was for kicks and giggles?
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No, he had it coming.
EB is a pro at response, it was funny to me.
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Im just doing my best, untill I learn to do better. Thank God I'm not what I used to be!
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09-27-2015, 07:40 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by houston
Telling him "The Lord rebuke you" was for kicks and giggles?
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THIS made me howl!!!!!!!!
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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09-27-2015, 12:12 AM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by J.A. Perez
This post if you would be honest with yourself and with everybody else here was nothing more than to put another knife in the back of every good man of God that has a backbone to stand for anything. It's obvious you are still bitter because of some offense that is happened to you, or else you would've contacted that man personally to hear what he has to say to you. Instead of mocked about it here.
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After this post I think I know what the J.A. stands for! If no one has told you this before let me be the first to tell you that you are quite the drama queen (or king).
Putting a knife in the back of every good man of God? Good grief!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-27-2015, 07:35 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by J.A. Perez
What ?
If the story you told is correct, then the Man you think came to rebuke you and obviously did not. Showed himself a gentleman. You are accusing him of being two-faced and a liar. Because you're believing what your friend told you instead of what actually happened at that restaurant. Its obvious that your best friend didn't know what that guy was going to say.
I think it's very honorable if a man has a burden for somebody that he would come to him and express that very thing. Why would that be a bad thing, why would that be something to all the sudden now turn it negative towards the conservative movement?
This post if you would be honest with yourself and with everybody else here was nothing more than to put another knife in the back of every good man of God that has a backbone to stand for anything. It's obvious you are still bitter because of some offense that is happened to you, or else you would've contacted that man personally to hear what he has to say to you. Instead of mocked about it here.
In my time I have talked to many like you and I have given them what I felt in the spirit to say, some it is helped and they have prayed back through to the Holy Ghost. Some continue to live their life and go on to be reprobate. And in my heart of hearts I have wept much and prayed much, over people backing out from things they once believed.
It's obvious also by everyone that agreed with you or commend you for the story that you shared with us. That they too are in danger of having their conscience seared with a hot iron. I would welcome anybody to come to me if I was backing away or letting down or compromising. To come to me with a sincere spirit and warn me. I would then sincerely search my soul, but I wouldn't post it here.
The Lord rebuke you sir.
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OMGosh! Lol!
The guy had "so much I want to say to you"---he told my best friend everything he planned to say. But I had to leave, I had 15 minutes to give him. He had no time to unload on me. He held back because of a lack of time and because my best friend rebuked him and told him to not dare say any of the things he was planning to say to me. MY TRUE FRIEND told him to do nothing but love me. But his prayers at the church said enough that my saints could tell he had an ulterior motive. Face it, not everyone who claims to be Apostolic represents the movement well, nor do they know how to deal with people who are an enigma to them.
As far as what you posted above---you are clueless about my situation.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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09-28-2015, 11:22 AM
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
OMGosh! Lol!
The guy had "so much I want to say to you"---he told my best friend everything he planned to say. But I had to leave, I had 15 minutes to give him. He had no time to unload on me. He held back because of a lack of time and because my best friend rebuked him and told him to not dare say any of the things he was planning to say to me. MY TRUE FRIEND told him to do nothing but love me. But his prayers at the church said enough that my saints could tell he had an ulterior motive. Face it, not everyone who claims to be Apostolic represents the movement well, nor do they know how to deal with people who are an enigma to them.
As far as what you posted above---you are clueless about my situation.
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^im confused. I thought you said you met at a restaurant and that is where he prayed for you?
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09-30-2015, 10:14 PM
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Pride of the Neighborhood
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Re: An Old "Friend" Seeking to Line Me Up
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
^im confused. I thought you said you met at a restaurant and that is where he prayed for you?
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Sheesh.
He called me on a Sunday said he was coming, "lets get together Monday night." He called Monday "I got a late start won't be there until late lets meet for breakfast Tuesday morning." He got a hotel room. I told him the only thing keeping me from meeting him Tuesday would be if my company scheduled appointments for me. The next day my company sent me two hours out of town to two appointments. So I called him to tell him the bad news. At this point I had no idea what his motive was for meeting me. I typically think the best of people. So we talked about an hour, I kind of brought him up to speed on my life. I was very honest about failures and shortcomings. I was also honest about not being in the UPC (which he already knew) and that I didn't believe in the standards and rules about cinemas and ball games, etc. I shared about my personal life and some tragedy and heartbreaks. Shared with him the good things God has done for me and how gracious He has been. I drove through a bad reception area and he said he wanted to go because I kept breaking up. We agreed there might be a small window to meet as I was headed back home driving through a certain city he would be traveling through. He asked was there a way he could go by the church and take a little tour of the place. I told him about our prayer group meeting later that morning. So he went there and toured the place and joined them for prayer. He called my best friend and unloaded all of the anger he had about my backsliding and told him what he was going to say to me, questioning what had happened to me (I never was a big standards guy when I was at Bible school or as a minister---I always went to ball games, grew up in a church that didn't preach against TVs, grew up in a more progressive district). As I was driving from my last appointment my best friend called me and said---DO NOT GO TO MEET HIM. After the call, I decided to go ahead and meet him. Then later that day we had our short little meeting at the restaurant in the other city and there he prayed as well.
Got it? Anything else you are entitled to?
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
Last edited by deacon blues; 09-30-2015 at 10:26 PM.
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