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Sean · #1 10-09-2015, 03:00 PM

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Of course you like it better because it is straight out of Search for truth home bible study course 101. And although it may seem clear to you, you added to the passage when you said Christ gave them more info than they ask for. Further you also cannot answer the question that Christ said "this generation shall not pass until All these things come to pass".

I have been telling you for 2 years, that the generation Jesus was describing as "this" generation is the one that would see these events transpire simultaneously.

Christ did not say, some generation sometime in the future that sees these things, he said "this generation" period. Again to change the meaning of his words is to add to the word of God, and we are instructed over and over never to do that with scripture.

Wrong Loren, he described the events 1st, then said "this" generation would not pass.

Evang.Benincasa · #2 10-09-2015, 08:48 PM

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Wrong Loren, he described the events 1st, then said "this" generation would not pass.

Sean, you must squeeze your collar together with clenched fists when you button the top button. Because you have absolutely no oxygen going to your brain. Jesus said to a group of men that THIS generation, therefore THIS generation was the people he was addressing. My lands, you are no way even a dispensationalist. I have never had anyone bring forward such weak arguments to defend Pre Tribulation Laughter.

Truthseeker · #3 10-08-2015, 09:11 AM

It's clear Matt 24 is fulfilled.

Evang.Benincasa · #4 10-08-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

It's clear Matt 24 is fulfilled.

Sean · #5 10-08-2015, 04:33 PM

I thought you guys might want a little more info.....

HERE IS MY LUKE 21 OUTLINE I PROMISED....Notice, no long explanations...Just easily understood passages laid out for the simple folks to read. The kind Jesus wants to save. Even a CAVEMAN could understand it...LOL

6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

They asked Jesus ONLY about the destruction of the temple here, but Jesus gives them more info than they actually asked for, just like Matt. 24...

8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven......
Now this above is the series of General signs before His 2nd coming.

Notice now..."but (before) all these", addressing their original question...
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. At this point, Jesus is finished with the destruction of Jerusalem explanation and proceeds to speak of His 2nd coming signs...

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. These above are the signs that Jesus wanted to point out of His 2nd coming in these end times.

29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.
31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
Here, Jesus gives us a warning to watch for these signs, before His return...FOR THE WHOLE EARTH....LOOK BELOW

34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the (whole earth).

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Sean · #6 10-08-2015, 04:39 PM

Okay class you are dismissed, but all you preterists must stay after class and do homework.

You are drawing blank stares again and daydreaming in class......LOL

Sean · #7 10-08-2015, 04:41 PM

All preterists will be drug tested for Maui Wowii after class....you look strange today!

LOL

Evang.Benincasa · #8 10-08-2015, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

All preterists will be drug tested for Maui Wowii after class....you look strange today!

LOL

The only one smoking dope here seems to be you Mr Crisp.

shazeep · #9 10-08-2015, 04:50 PM

there is evidence for the kingdom among us now, as well as for a kingdom to come. Our understandings about any of these mysteries can only come from a limited perspective, through a mirror darkly. It wouldn't surprise me if 70ad was a type for another fulfillment, as things seem to work that way, accomplished in the physical and the spiritual.

Truthseeker · #10 10-08-2015, 09:10 PM

At least preterists know what "you"means.