June 28, 2007. A very important date in American History

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

LOL! it would stop nothing. they come here because their kids are hungry and they want to feed them. they dont care about what is legal.

So long as we dont deal with the reasons they come here and restrict the methods by which they get here, they will come.

if that were to pass, you could end up sending a 20 year old nearly english only person who has NEVER once been to any country other than the USA back to some third world nation to live in a culture they have never experienced....because THEIR PARENTS broke the law.

we dont hold one person responsible for other peoples actions.

FERD! They do come here to make their children legal!!! They can get visas, green cards. They just can't be legal. That isn't stopping them from working and eating.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

FERD! They do come here to make their children legal!!! They can get visas, green cards. They just can't be legal. That isn't stopping them from working and eating.

lets just be clear. yes they come here to have "anchor babies" but if they could not have "anchor babies" and there were still reasons for them to come, and ways to get here, they would still come.


AND lets also be really articulate about this.

You are willing to punish one person for the transgressions of another.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

lets just be clear. yes they come here to have "anchor babies" but if they could not have "anchor babies" and there were still reasons for them to come, and ways to get here, they would still come.


AND lets also be really articulate about this.

You are willing to punish one person for the transgressions of another.

No, Ferd. I want them to come here legally.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

No, Ferd. I want them to come here legally.

Me too. however sans rational immagraiton law, that is not going to happen.

creating an amendment to the constitution that deals only with the children of law breakers, is neither rationoal immagration law, nor is it in the best traditions of the American Spirit.

and you can say you want them to come here legally... and I believe you...but when you are punishing innocent children of law breakers you are punishing innocent children...


PO, under current law, an illegal immagrent CAN be sent home with their American child. That child on their 18th birthday can come back to America as a citizen.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Me too. however sans rational immigration law, that is not going to happen.

creating an amendment to the constitution that deals only with the children of law breakers, is neither rational immigration law, nor is it in the best traditions of the American Spirit.

and you can say you want them to come here legally... and I believe you...but when you are punishing innocent children of law breakers you are punishing innocent children...


PO, under current law, an illegal scrimmage CAN be sent home with their American child. That child on their 18th birthday can come back to America as a citizen.

The need to not be American citizens in the first place. They are coming here not wanting to be loyal to this country. That is what I don't like.

The immigrants in times past came here desiring to become what this country represented.

The aliens don't want that.

And excuse me for calling them immigrants because an immigrant wants to align themselves with the ideals of the country they are immigrating to and the larger percentage do not.

I am sick of seeing Mexico's flag flying around here!!!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The need to not be American citizens in the first place. They are coming here not wanting to be loyal to this country. That is what I don't like.

The immigrants in times past came here desiring to become what this country represented.

The aliens don't want that.

And excuse me for calling them immigrants because an immigrant wants to align themselves with the ideals of the country they are immigrating to and the larger percentage do not.

I am sick of seeing Mexico's flag flying around here!!!

I have no problem with calling these law breakers illegal aliens. that is an accurate discription.

you are right in part about some....but we have LEGAL immagrents from all over the world that do not want to be American... they just want the benifit...that isnt an illegal alien issue. that is an immagrent issue.

you are STILL suggesting we punish the innocent children of law breakers. that is a very bad idea.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I have no problem with calling these law breakers illegal aliens. that is an accurate discription.

you are right in part about some....but we have LEGAL immagrents from all over the world that do not want to be American... they just want the benifit...that isnt an illegal alien issue. that is an immagrent issue.

you are STILL suggesting we punish the innocent children of law breakers. that is a very bad idea.

Ferd,
If the parents are not obeying the law, than why should we reward the children for that. It just teaches them to be dishonest when they grow up.