Sinful union?

[KwaiQ]

Originally Posted by Adino

Hello KwaiQ, nice to meet you.

The concept is that a holy God cannot fellowship with sin simply because sin causes separation from God. Sin violates the sovereignty of God. Sin says that God's rule is not to be followed thereby making the one who commits the sin "a god himself" (Gen 3:5) by taking his word above that of the true God. Lordship transfers from the true God to the transgressor. Since there is but one God, this breach of the first commandment simply cannot be. The wage of sin is death (Romans 6:23). You cannot have sin present and God present at the same time. The transgressor vies for Lordship when he sins. God's Lordship demands that all sin be removed from his presence. Sin's consequence is separation.

Aside from this simple fact of sin's consequence we are also to understand that by virtue of being in Christ we are "in God" (Romans 8:1, 12:5; John 6:56, 10:37 ). We are to understand that God is holy (Psalm 99:5; Lev 11:44,45; 1Peter 1:15,16). We are to understand that in God there is no unrighteousness (Psalm 92:15), no darkness (1John 1:5) and, above all, in God there is no sin (1John 3:5).

Because God does not change (Mal 3:6) his holiness cannot be compromised. Therefore, we who are united with God via his Spirit must be viewed as sanctified in his eyes. Only those sanctified are acceptable to God (Romans 15:16). We are saved through sanctification of the Spirit (2Thessalonians 2:13). We are sanctified by virtue of being "in Christ/in Him" by the Spirit (1Corinthians 1:2; 6:11). God will not/cannot fellowship with the unsanctified. In fact, the priests were to be sanctified when in His presence or die (It seems that pesky principle will simply not go away. Where there is sin there is always death/separation.) (Exodus 28; 30; 40; Numbers 18). This brings us back to Cornelius. How could Cornelius be unsanctified yet have the indwelling Spirit?

Can you help us to understand how God became spiritually united with Cornelius before sin, the cause of his separation from God, was removed?

Thanks

This is putting limits on God where God Himself placed none. Sin is what separates us from God. Sin does not separate God from God. God is omnipresent. He can and does go everywhere. He fills everything. The only thing we can do is not worship Him or follow Him by continuing in lawlessness or "sin".

[Adino]

KwaiQ wrote:

This is putting limits on God where God Himself placed none.

This does not make much sense. Maybe you can elaborate. What puts limits on God? If I would say that God can't sin, would that be putting a limit on God? If his holiness doesn't demand that sin be dealt with for fellowship with the human spirit to take place, then please tell me why fellowship was ever broken off in the first place. Maybe it would help if you explained to us what it meant for man to die spiritually.

Sin does not separate God from God.

Never said it did. Where'd this come from?

God is omnipresent.

Yes... but what's your point again?

The only thing we can do is not worship Him or follow Him by continuing in lawlessness or "sin".

Again, please define spiritual death. What happened in the Fall?

Just picking your mind a bit....

God bless, friend