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Old 08-10-2007, 05:45 PM
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Sounds like I was right. NAYC is years behind the times and shows no signs of catching up.

It's a shame politics invaded youth events. Pro or con opinions about the res. has nothing to do with issues kids are facing. Kids are facing tougher issues than television advertising. A youth event is no place to make a political statement.
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:55 PM
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Sounds like I was right. NAYC is years behind the times and shows no signs of catching up.

It's a shame politics invaded youth events. Pro or con opinions about the res. has nothing to do with issues kids are facing. Kids are facing tougher issues than television advertising. A youth event is no place to make a political statement.
TV1A,

You should work for the Democrat party. They need all the spinmeister's they can get and you are one of the best!

The sad thing is that you are serious in your skewed view!
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:21 AM
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What purpose is pontificating a tv veiwpoint to a group of kids? I don't care which view point said, it shows the pathetic state of the organization when a youth event is used to propogate an agenda. It didn't happen @ Rod Parsley's youth convention...


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TV1A,

You should work for the Democrat party. They need all the spinmeister's they can get and you are one of the best!

The sad thing is that you are serious in your skewed view!
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What purpose is pontificating a tv veiwpoint to a group of kids? I don't care which view point said, it shows the pathetic state of the organization when a youth event is used to propogate an agenda. It didn't happen @ Rod Parsley's youth convention...

Troy, with all due kindness, Parsely is a trinitarian and didn't tell any of the kids how to be saved either.

The session in question was for young ministers anyway, not just all kids in general.

And it is funny that you guys think Brother Gleason was speaking against the tv thing...I would be very, very shocked to find out that he wasn't for it 100%.
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Old 08-11-2007, 08:56 AM
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Troy, with all due kindness, Parsely is a trinitarian and didn't tell any of the kids how to be saved either.

The session in question was for young ministers anyway, not just all kids in general.

And it is funny that you guys think Brother Gleason was speaking against the tv thing...I would be very, very shocked to find out that he wasn't for it 100%.
Ahh.....Coonskinner did you notice my post and South of I90's agreement with it? We have a different take on the situation.
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Ahh.....Coonskinner did you notice my post and South of I90's agreement with it? We have a different take on the situation.
You could be right, CC.

I will withhold further comments.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:26 PM
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It doesn't matter to me what side Bro. Gleason is taking. The television debate is a political topic. Tell the young ministers how to impact a community for Christ. Save the politics for political events like district conference, or general conference. TV advertising is the least of young people's problems.

ps. I did not hear one piece of false doctrine in 3 days @ World Harvest. I was listening intently for damnable heresies.

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Troy, with all due kindness, Parsely is a trinitarian and didn't tell any of the kids how to be saved either.

The session in question was for young ministers anyway, not just all kids in general.

And it is funny that you guys think Brother Gleason was speaking against the tv thing...I would be very, very shocked to find out that he wasn't for it 100%.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:27 PM
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It doesn't matter to me what side Bro. Gleason is taking. The television debate is a political topic. Tell the young ministers how to impact a community for Christ. Save the politics for political events like district conference, or general conference. TV advertising is the least of young people's problems.

ps. I did not hear one piece of false doctrine in 3 days @ World Harvest. I was listening intently for damnable heresies.

Guys like Parsely and Jakes have learned to say a lot without exactly saying anything flat our wrong, but at the same time not telling you the most important thing of all--how to be saved.
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Guys like Parsely and Jakes have learned to say a lot without exactly saying anything flat our wrong, but at the same time not telling you the most important thing of all--how to be saved.
I don't know about Parsely... but I would venture to say many thousands have been saved through the ministry of Jakes - even by your own definition.
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OP's screw up salvtion with dress codes and legalism... The difference between the two are?????? I can't see much difference between saying sinner's prayer for salvation and shedding the sinner's modest clothing for salvation.

[quote=Coonskinner;213057]Guys like Parsely and Jakes have learned to say a lot without exactly saying anything flat our wrong, but at the same time not telling you the most important thing of all--how to be saved.[/quote]
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