Can Rebellion Ever Be Justified?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Sam

This is a difficult question.
Yes, we are to obey the government which is in place
but
some times there may be a higher law
some times laws are unjust
etc.

The Apostles disobeyed the rules set down by the religious leaders of their day. That verse was previously quoted about obeying God rather than man.

In Holland, Christians hid Jews in defiance to the law by the government. Christians lied and practiced deception in getting forged documents and ration cards to feed Jews that they were hiding. How can we justify lying? Yet they were doing it for a greater good.

Yes, a group of rebels set up a new government in defiance to the established government of the Crown. Were they right or wrong? There are differences of opinion on that. They believed they were doing the right thing and asked God's blessing on it. Today looking back we are glad they did what they did.

What about unjust and unScriptural laws, requirements, and "standards" preached by a pastor. We are supposed to submit to our pastor but at times "we ought to obey God rather than man."

Sam, that is a good point.

Again, I am not a Monarchist, and I think King George was mad.
There is some evidence that he had syphilis & was a little off the deep end.

It is an interesting question though in that can "Rebellion" ever be justified &
in what circumstances.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Ron

Sam, that is a good point.

Again, I am not a Monarchist, and I think King George was mad.
There is some evidence that he had syphilis & was a little off the deep end.

It is an interesting question though in that can "Rebellion" ever be justified &
in what circumstances.

The founding fathers of the U.S. actually thought that there had been something of an "eschatological revolution" and that a "New World Order" existed. Look at the back of your dollar bill. The primary intellectual behind this way of thinking was none other than Sir Isaac Newton.

A few years ago a large trunk filled with unpublished and heretofore unknown writings of Sir Isaac was found. Many scholars were excited because they thought that they had found a treasure trove of scientific discovery from one of the greatest, if not the greatest scientific mind in human history.

Instead what they found was a huge cache of writings on the Books of Daniel and Revelation. It was Newton's theological studies for the the "end" of the "Great Chain of Being" and the foundation of the "New World."

The way the founding fathers looked at it, they weren't really "rebelling." They we simply following what "God" had started with the scientific revolution and adjusting the political world to better fit the new vision of the way things should be in Nature. It was all steeped in Deist philosophy, of course.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The founding fathers of the U.S. actually thought that there had been something of an "eschatological revolution" and that a "New World Order" existed. Look at the back of your dollar bill. The primary intellectual behind this way of thinking was none other than Sir Isaac Newton.

A few years ago a large trunk filled with unpublished and heretofore unknown writings of Sir Isaac was found. Many scholars were excited because they thought that they had found a treasure trove of scientific discovery from one of the greatest, if not the greatest scientific mind in human history.

Instead what they found was a huge cache of writings on the Books of Daniel and Revelation. It was Newton's theological studies for the the "end" of the "Great Chain of Being" and the foundation of the "New World."

The way the founding fathers looked at it, they weren't really "rebelling." They we simply following what "God" had started with the scientific revolution and adjusting the political world to better fit the new vision of the way things should be in Nature. It was all steeped in Deist philosophy, of course.

We got a dollar Coin & on the back is HM QE 2!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Ron

We got a dollar Coin & on the back is HM QE 2!

Whoa... my bad. I forgot that you're one of those folks who knew better than to engage in that particular rebellion. LOL!

Oh, and congrats! That dollar is now worth the same as my dollar!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Whoa... my bad. I forgot that you're one of those folks who knew better than to engage in that particular rebellion. LOL!

Oh, and congrats! That dollar is now worth the same as my dollar!

I would rather have a dollar bill instead of a coin myself.
I think the monarchy thing is ready to go by the wayside myself.