Accepting Him or Rejecting Him; Jesus Name Baptism and Pentecostal Trinity Churches

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Have you read any of their articles of faith NONE of them expouse this and most of them would not give you license if you did. I do NOT know ONE Trinitarian preacher that baptizes in Jesus Name and I know a few folk.

This remark is from the 1960. My father John A Eckstadt, was an Assembly of God liscensed minister. My mom was also a liscenses AOG minister.

They both Went to Zion Bible College in Rhode Island AOG.

My dad received the revelation of the Oneness and was re-baptized in 1961 in New Brunswick, Canada.

My mom then was re-baptized in NB a few months later.

Upon revealing this to the general board of the AOG.

He was summoned to Head Quarters for reprimand.

After the meeting many of them told him they were baptized in Jesus name to be safe.

He went back to Bristol, Conn where a few years earlier he had converted 2 UPCI Churches from the Oneness to Trinity.

He then converted them both back and his church to Oneness.

The rest is history until he passed in 1978.

Both my Uncles Rev John Laun an older evengelist in the UPCI and my mom's brother were both former AOG ministers.

They have were bapitzed in JN.

My Mom's brother lives in Springfield, MO headquarters city of the AOG.

She recently went to visit the retirement home of retired AOG ministers.

She went to visit some old schoolmates, some retired ministers some ministers wives.

She sat next to one man, who was a student who graudated a few years before her.

He asked her what she did during all those years ago.

He was one of her teachers in the 1950's.

He remember my Dad as being a genius on the Scriptures.

After talking about the UPCI, he commented Evelyn....You would be amazed who at college and over the years still reside in the AOG, but believe in the Oneness and have been Baptized in Jesus Name.

Thought this might be interesting.

Nathan Eckstadt

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

This remark is from the 1960. My father John A Eckstadt, was an Assembly of God liscensed minister. My mom was also a liscenses AOG minister.

They both Went to Zion Bible College in Rhode Island AOG.

My dad received the revelation of the Oneness and was re-baptized in 1961 in New Brunswick, Canada.

My mom then was re-baptized in NB a few months later.

Upon revealing this to the general board of the AOG.

He was summoned to Head Quarters for reprimand.

After the meeting many of them told him they were baptized in Jesus name to be safe.

He went back to Bristol, Conn where a few years earlier he had converted 2 UPCI Churches from the Oneness to Trinity.

He then converted them both back and his church to Oneness.

The rest is history until he passed in 1978.

Both my Uncles Rev John Laun an older evengelist in the UPCI and my mom's brother were both former AOG ministers.

They have were bapitzed in JN.

My Mom's brother lives in Springfield, MO headquarters city of the AOG.

She recently went to visit the retirement home of retired AOG ministers.

She went to visit some old schoolmates, some retired ministers some ministers wives.

She sat next to one man, who was a student who graudated a few years before her.

He asked her what she did during all those years ago.

He was one of her teachers in the 1950's.

He remember my Dad as being a genius on the Scriptures.

After talking about the UPCI, he commented Evelyn....You would be amazed who at college and over the years still reside in the AOG, but believe in the Oneness and have been Baptized in Jesus Name.

Thought this might be interesting.

Nathan Eckstadt

Have you read the AG's articles of faith. When Charisma ran that article that caused such a furor a couple of years back it was the AG huncho that said they would NOT fellowship Oneness folks unitl they denied this heresy. He had more guts than the two Oneness guys interveiwed.

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Have you read the AG's articles of faith. When Charisma ran that article that caused such a furor a couple of years back it was the AG huncho that said they would NOT fellowship Oneness folks unitl they denied this heresy. He had more guts than the two Oneness guys interveiwed.

I do remember those statements. But remember that they had their officals we had ours. The ministers in an organization do not always subscribe to the manual.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

This remark is from the 1960. My father John A Eckstadt, was an Assembly of God liscensed minister. My mom was also a liscenses AOG minister.

They both Went to Zion Bible College in Rhode Island AOG.

I can tell you first hand that Zion DID NOT welcome the UPC message with open arms at all. Three Districts used to rent the Zion campus for campmeetings. They were concurrent for Central New England (then MA-RI), Connecticut, and New York Metro being there in what must be maybe 96-2000.

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

I can tell you first hand that Zion DID NOT welcome the UPC message with open arms at all. Three Districts used to rent the Zion campus for campmeetings. They were concurrent for Central New England (then MA-RI), Connecticut, and New York Metro being there in what must be maybe 96-2000.

I agree with that statment. I was only sharing that there were some men that were baptized in secret. There were teachers there that believed the message.

My Dad and Mom found the oneness revleation after leaving Zion.

Just wanted to share that there were some who believed.

SHe has run into many students from the 50's who turned Oneness in UPCI and other Oneness org's as church members.

Nathan Eckstadt