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Old 10-23-2007, 09:40 AM
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Why would a formula matter to people who view baptism as nothing more than an out-dated embarrasing inconvenience?
To them it wouldn't..but we don't know that from the question.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:14 AM
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To them it wouldn't..but we don't know that from the question.
Absolutely correct here, but let me clarify.

Bro H. assumed correctly that this was a way to not offend or hinder anyone from being baptized. The Pastor told me that baptism is what is important so in order to insure that step the have used the formula that was mentioned in the initial post.

So according to Him not only is baptism important but essential.

I'm not agreeing with the man BTW just wanted to hear some feed-back.

PP, were you referrring to someone that you know?
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:15 AM
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Absolutely correct here, but let me clarify.

Bro H. assumed correctly that this was a way to not offend or hinder anyone from being baptized. The Pastor told me that baptism is what is important so in order to insure that step the have used the formula that was mentioned in the initial post.

So according to Him not only is baptism important but essential.

I'm not agreeing with the man BTW just wanted to hear some feed-back.

PP, were you referrring to someone that you know?
There are lots of folks on AFF that view baptism that way. It's nothing more to them than an embarrassing inconvenient tradition.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:20 AM
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There are lots of folks on AFF that view baptism that way. It's nothing more to them than an embarrassing inconvenient tradition.
I hear ya....but this man does not view it that way, in fact just the opposite. And his point is to make sure everyone gets baptized.

Not that you care.
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Old 10-23-2007, 07:11 PM
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There are lots of folks on AFF that view baptism that way. It's nothing more to them than an embarrassing inconvenient tradition.
Has anyone expressed it in those terms? I'm curious to see the justification for such a position.

Personally I've never seen anyone say anything like that before.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:07 PM
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There are lots of folks on AFF that view baptism that way. It's nothing more to them than an embarrassing inconvenient tradition.
This would not be me.

Christian Baptism is the new believer's rite of passage of sorts. It is something to be heralded to the world.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:21 PM
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There are lots of folks on AFF that view baptism that way. It's nothing more to them than an embarrassing inconvenient tradition.

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Who on here believes anything like that? I've never heard anyone use these words about baptism.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:21 PM
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Why would a formula matter to people who view baptism as nothing more than an out-dated embarrasing inconvenience?
I bet it's going to be really embarrassing to folks who realize they missed heaven because they weren't baptized in Jesus name. And all because they thought baptism was out-dated or weren't willing to be inconvenienced for two or three minutes.

Even Naaman had the "embarrassing inconvenience" of dipping seven times in a dirty River Jordan. Yet his simple obedience resulted in his complete wholeness. If he had refused, he would have left a leper.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:23 PM
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I bet it's going to be really embarrassing to folks who realize they missed heaven because they weren't baptized in Jesus name. And all because they thought baptism was out-dated or weren't willing to be inconvenienced for two or three minutes.

Even Naaman had the "embarrassing inconvenience" of dipping seven times in a dirty River Jordan. Yet his simple obedience resulted in his complete wholeness. If he had refused, he would have left a leper.
Now Lost, you know that all that typology makes them crazy (I quote)
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:27 PM
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I bet it's going to be really embarrassing to folks who realize they missed heaven because they weren't baptized in Jesus name. And all because they thought baptism was out-dated or weren't willing to be inconvenienced for two or three minutes.

Even Naaman had the "embarrassing inconvenience" of dipping seven times in a dirty River Jordan. Yet his simple obedience resulted in his complete wholeness. If he had refused, he would have left a leper.


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