a honest question

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Ferd

In a vaccume, your question is a good one.

however, in context, the question isnt so simple. The fact is, in 1992, a large number of those "liberal" pastors did leave. many of the ones leaving now, were happy to see them go.

LY was judged pretty harshly for a sermon he preached on the subject just before he left.

That's what I was thinking.

I don't believe at that time, the ones that left were saying that UPC would self-destruct either.

Of course, the issue is the more conservative are so passionate about their convictions and beliefs that they can only see things through their eyes and no one can fault them for that. However, I think sometimes they paint themselves into a corner.

[The Closer]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

That's what I was thinking.

I don't believe at that time, the ones that left were saying that UPC would self-destruct either.

Of course, the issue is the more conservative are so passionate about their convictions and beliefs that they can only see things through their eyes and no one can fault them for that. However, I think sometimes they paint themselves into a corner.

is this the words of just a few or many

from what i have been able to gather it is not the words of the many but a few that may even wish that would happen which if that is the case i think it is sad

some would say i am a liberal others would say i am a con but i can say that i wish no destruction for those who leave on either side of the issue

i do not believe however that God would bless anyone who strays from the doctrines taught in the Word of God such as repentance, baptism in Jesus Name or the Holy Ghost

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by The Closer

is this the words of just a few or many

from what i have been able to gather it is not the words of the many but a few that may even wish that would happen which if that is the case i think it is sad

some would say i am a liberal others would say i am a con but i can say that i wish no destruction for those who leave on either side of the issue

i do not believe however that God would bless anyone who strays from the doctrines taught in the Word of God such as repentance, baptism in Jesus Name or the Holy Ghost

I would think it's a few, but to keep hearing over and over that it's not out there is just wrong. It's out there - can't deny that some and I say again some feel this way.