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Old 01-25-2008, 03:52 PM
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Just curious why they would sell a mailing list with the ministers number on it. Shouldn't it be blocked out before it is given away?

Any minister with a ministers directory could make up a mailing list,
up until this point I have seen numerous conferences use a mailing list and there hasn't been a problem or speculation as to the theft of it?
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Just curious why they would sell a mailing list with the ministers number on it. Shouldn't it be blocked out before it is given away?

Any minister with a ministers directory could make up a mailing list,
up until this point I have seen numerous conferences use a mailing list and there hasn't been a problem or speculation as to the theft of it?
I think the answer is in post number one-

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Their 2nd reply:

"The list was bought and paid for from the UPC. They used to give them
away and now they sell them. I helped sponsor a meeting and we used
to get a new one every year.

In case you wondered, there are UPCI mailing lists ALL over this
nation. I know of literally hundreds of ministers that have
them...Sorry.
God Bless You,"

Is it ethical for HQ to sell lists to anyone willing to pay for them?!?
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Is it ethical for HQ to sell lists to anyone willing to pay for them?!?
The answer is "YES!!" It is saving the conference (etc.) precious time in typing in all of the information. I'm sure the UPCI expects the customers who purchase their list to abide within ethical guidelines using private information.
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The answer is "YES!!" It is saving the conference (etc.) precious time in typing in all of the information. I'm sure the UPCI expects the customers who purchase their list to abide within ethical guidelines using private information.
I don't think they really have an Affirmation Statement for mailing lists do you?

You send them $XX (I am thinking in the neighborhood of $200-$250) and you get a list in a plain white envelope.
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I don't think they really have an Affirmation Statement for mailing lists do you?

You send them $XX (I am thinking in the neighborhood of $200-$250) and you get a list in a plain white envelope.
I promise you they don't give out their list to just anybody! I would imagine that your intensions would have to be made known.
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The list had been purchased for another purpose. They re-used the list (a violation) for their own purposes (to from another fellowship/organization) which is unethical on so many levels.
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The list had been purchased for another purpose. They re-used the list (a violation) for their own purposes (to from another fellowship/organization) which is unethical on so many levels.
Did you ask to be removed?

I get junk all the time from others NOT upc and I simply throw them away. I am gonna find a mailbox smiley to use here.
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Did you ask to be removed?

I get junk all the time from others NOT upc and I simply throw them away. I am gonna find a mailbox smiley to use here.

Boomm, one can always request to be removed from a mialing list, but that is not the point.

Our business buys mailing lists all of the time. These are public lists for difference household incomes, etc.

However, if we want a private list such as a physicians association or symphony season ticket holders, we must state our intentions. If our intensions are not congruent with their association's purpose and direction, our request will be denied!
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Just curious why they would sell a mailing list with the ministers number on it. Shouldn't it be blocked out before it is given away?

Any minister with a ministers directory could make up a mailing list,
up until this point I have seen numerous conferences use a mailing list and there hasn't been a problem or speculation as to the theft of it?
I believe the UPCI's good intentions for allowing special conferences the use of their mailing list was taken advantage of! Surely they never expected the list to be used to cause division! I'm sure the UPCI feels violated!

This happened to me not long ago. Thinking we were friends on the same page, I gave confidential information to someone. They used that information and filed a lawsuit against me and others. I felt like a fool for trusting that they had my best intensions in mind!
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