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02-01-2008, 07:06 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
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Originally Posted by embonpoint
Am I the only one that sees the irony in this?
It is the "Cons" that are always criticized for wanting to control people.
But if they pay there obligations to the org they should be kicked out for having the audacity to give elsewhere too?
As I said in another thread, kick 'em out you don't need their money anyway. Especially if they're gonna give some to independant missionaries too.

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You missed it....
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02-01-2008, 07:44 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
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Originally Posted by NLYP
You missed it....
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Please tell me what I missed.
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02-01-2008, 07:11 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
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Originally Posted by embonpoint
Am I the only one that sees the irony in this?
It is the "Cons" that are always criticized for wanting to control people.
But if they pay there obligations to the org they should be kicked out for having the audacity to give elsewhere too?
As I said in another thread, kick 'em out you don't need their money anyway. Especially if they're gonna give some to independant missionaries too.

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This goes to show there are still a lot of Cons left in the UPCI
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02-01-2008, 07:10 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
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Originally Posted by NLYP
I still wish someone would explain something to me.....
"We are not requiring anybody to leave the UPC to be a part of the WWPF"
oooook.
So....I am UPC....and I agree that if hold license that I will faithfully support the UPC with prayer and finances.
So.....If I am upc AND wwpf.....where does my financial alliegence lie?
They say they are not an org...YET..they have woman ministry, foreign ministry, home missions, youth ministry...etc....
They WILL want their members to support their works.
So whats a "Dual" membership man to do???
I say this...ITS a ploy to get them in the door.
I just have serious problems with the "dual" thing.....
Get in or Get out....
I do know the general Board is getting ready to meet and address this....
We shall see.......
Dont get me wrong....I want this Apostolic message to reach the world...BUT...there is an old saying...."fish or cut bait".
God bless the WWPF...but not at the expense of devisiveness towards the fellowship I am a part of and love.
I say that with no malicious intent...
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My question is....what is the point in starting a new org which for many seemed to be based on Res 4....not being able to fellowship or be IN an org that was going the wrong direction.....hmmmmm
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-01-2008, 07:12 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
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Originally Posted by NLYP
I still wish someone would explain something to me.....
"We are not requiring anybody to leave the UPC to be a part of the WWPF"
oooook.
So....I am UPC....and I agree that if hold license that I will faithfully support the UPC with prayer and finances.
So.....If I am upc AND wwpf.....where does my financial alliegence lie?
They say they are not an org...YET..they have woman ministry, foreign ministry, home missions, youth ministry...etc....
They WILL want their members to support their works.
So whats a "Dual" membership man to do???
I say this...ITS a ploy to get them in the door.
I just have serious problems with the "dual" thing.....
Get in or Get out....
I do know the general Board is getting ready to meet and address this....
We shall see.......
Dont get me wrong....I want this Apostolic message to reach the world...BUT...there is an old saying...."fish or cut bait".
God bless the WWPF...but not at the expense of devisiveness towards the fellowship I am a part of and love.
I say that with no malicious intent...
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All new organization are soft at first. Once they reach the level of membership to finance their organization they will become show more authority.
Right now they just want the UPCI ministers to here the sales pitch.
They fully believe everyone wants to go back to 1945.
Before the TV etc....
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02-01-2008, 09:02 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
All new organization are soft at first. Once they reach the level of membership to finance their organization they will become show more authority.
Right now they just want the UPCI ministers to here the sales pitch.
They fully believe everyone wants to go back to 1945.
Before the TV etc....
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DING DING DING...We have a winner!!!!!!!!!
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02-01-2008, 08:49 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
I predict that the WPF will cause a lot of good...maybe, just maybe the UPC conference speakers will speak more about the ESSENTIALS of the Oneness of God; The New Birth ( Acts 2:38); Living an Overcoming Life; Holiness within and without...IF so maybe they will pull the UPC to the right....it would be good...
BUT if they refuse to name things they will continue to drift...........
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02-02-2008, 06:13 AM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
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Originally Posted by AGAPE
I predict that the WPF will cause a lot of good...maybe, just maybe the UPC conference speakers will speak more about the ESSENTIALS of the Oneness of God; The New Birth ( Acts 2:38); Living an Overcoming Life; Holiness within and without...IF so maybe they will pull the UPC to the right....it would be good...
BUT if they refuse to name things they will continue to drift...........
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Have you seen BOTT?? Specificly Bro. Mangun from Jan 9th. If not, then you got your wish but haven't read it yet.
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02-01-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
All this and nobody still has answered the original question.
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02-01-2008, 09:05 PM
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Re: Concerning Tulsa, could sombody please answer
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Originally Posted by NLYP
All this and nobody still has answered the original question.
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What WAS the question?
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