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10-16-2009, 06:56 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by jfrog
By the way... I don't go to church currently so i don't give anything.
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1) you need to get in church
2)even if you don't believe in tithing (I do not) you should be giving anyway
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10-16-2009, 08:58 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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1) you need to get in church
2)even if you don't believe in tithing (I do not) you should be giving anyway
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Maybe I do need to get into church. I've tried visiting a few here lately but I don't think I'm ever going to be comfortable in any till I know what all I believe and why I believe it. Maybe I judge them to harshly but everytime I sit through the preaching I hear much that doesn't sit right with me. So, till that stops happening, going to church isn't much good for me. Now, maybe some of my beliefs are wrong and screwed up, but as long as I believe them church isn't ever going to be very good for me.
I never said we shouldn't give. It's just the impression I'm getting from everyone that doesn't believe in tithes is that they wouldn't feel right giving under 10% ever. I'm saying that this mindset is the same as those that believe we ought to tithe. Can any here honestly say they wouldn't feel condemned if they ever gave less than 10%. Have you ever given less than 10%? That's the heart of the matter I'm getting at. It's still about a tithe even if you don't say it. You are just saying people should give over that amount.
I'm saying that we ought to give what God leads us to give. Some more than 10% and some less. It's good to give what we can. It's good to take care of our financial responsibilities first. I would even say more important. Responsibility matters. It's not good to put yourself into a situation that you can't give much, but if you have gotten yourself in that situation you ought to first get out of it and learn how to avoid such situations in the future.
That is the problem I see even with those that say they don't tithe. They still want to say those not giving 10% aren't giving like they should. God doesn't ask the same of everyone. Give as God leads. What better type of giving is there? Give out of a cheerful heart. Don't condemn your brothers that give less. Don't condemn those that give more. Oops, I guess I'm guilty of that last one... Nah, it's just the attitude that condemns those giving less than a tithe that I condemn.
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10-16-2009, 09:50 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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By the way... I don't go to church currently so i don't give anything.
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Ok You can send me a generous offering,I'll be your storehouse.
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10-16-2009, 10:28 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
if your looking for that perfect church that suits you in everyway and belives everything just like you do jfrog .. you;ll have to start your own, lol...i aint never seen that church myself,,,,,and i aint never quit going yet. thats where my help is and my strength. you have allowed your beliefs to interfere with your walk with god ,, i wonder who.s the most happy about your ways right now god or the devil?? its not about being right all the time its about a love relationship with JESUS ...stop allowing the enemy to rule you rebuke the devourer that has caused seperation from the body of christ,, is christ DIVIDED? i say no unity there is strength ,,we may have differetn ideas of things but we can still work for the same cause winning souls. JESUS woukld have us winning souls not devouring one another ..its easy to find fault ,harder to love someone even tho they are faulty ////AINT YOU GLAD WE GOT A GOD THAT PUTS UP WITH US?
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10-17-2009, 02:32 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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if your looking for that perfect church that suits you in everyway and belives everything just like you do jfrog .. you;ll have to start your own, lol...i aint never seen that church myself,,,,,and i aint never quit going yet. thats where my help is and my strength. you have allowed your beliefs to interfere with your walk with god ,, i wonder who.s the most happy about your ways right now god or the devil?? its not about being right all the time its about a love relationship with JESUS ...stop allowing the enemy to rule you rebuke the devourer that has caused seperation from the body of christ,, is christ DIVIDED? i say no unity there is strength ,,we may have differetn ideas of things but we can still work for the same cause winning souls. JESUS woukld have us winning souls not devouring one another ..its easy to find fault ,harder to love someone even tho they are faulty ////AINT YOU GLAD WE GOT A GOD THAT PUTS UP WITH US?
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I realize it's not about the perfect church. I'll never find one that fits me perfectly, and if I could, then when I modify any of my beliefs again, I'll have to find a brand new one. I've realize it's not about the church being perfect, probably more now than ever. In fact I do want to be able to attend apostolic churches again and not get so bothered by what the preacher is saying and wondering how he could even say it. It's not only them that I seem to have problems with. Baptist churches aren't my fancy either, and I imagine most of the church world wouldn't be either. I seem to have problems with much of what I hear from any pulpit. It's not just minor disagreements either. The principles I hear them preach about and everything just doesn't feel right to me. This happens so often for me throughout the service that I usually leave thinking wow, he really said all that. It's not about finding a perfect church for me anymore. It's about finding a church where enough of what is preached feels right to me. Maybe I'm the one so wrong and it's my spirit that screwed up on these issues. But, as long as I believe as I do it seems church preaching isn't much of an option for me.
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06-29-2014, 09:34 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
There is no perfect fit church but creating a doctrine that was not in the early church era is not imperfect but pure evil in my view. I hate falseness so I hate anything that is false and especially when the ones that push it should know better but do not want the truth about that particular subject. If you go against it I hate to say this but the gates of carnality will attack with full force anyone who disagrees with the tithing doctrine.
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10-19-2009, 05:53 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
"It's about finding a church where enough of what is preached feels right to me."
That sounds familiar. Isn't there a verse about people who wanta preacher who will just tickle their ears? LOL.
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10-19-2009, 09:54 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
Then go to a methodist church nitehawk. I'm sure it'll feel just as wrong to you as I find churches in general wrong to me. Oh wait, I guess you want someone to tickle your ears too...
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10-19-2009, 10:24 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
If what they preach is biblically sound then why not go? So far as I know, not many Methodists preaching biblical things like ONeness and Acts2:38.
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10-19-2009, 02:03 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
So far I'm not sure which of those doctrines are biblical and which are not... oh well for that theory about wanting my ears tickled.
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