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09-23-2014, 04:49 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
I'm a bi vocational pastor. And it is hard. Ministry is hard. But I do it because I minister to meet peoples needs not for them to meet mine. Are there times I wish I was a f/t salaried pastor? I'm not going to lie, yes there are. But overall I am glad that I have never been a financial burden to any church. I have always preached free, and I believe God has blessed me abundantly. I have very nice temporal things and live well. And I'm not offended that I have to work.
I dont preach or pastor because I need a job. I do it because I want to see people saved.
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God Bless You. 
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09-23-2014, 08:09 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
I'm a bi vocational pastor. And it is hard. Ministry is hard. But I do it because I minister to meet peoples needs not for them to meet mine. Are there times I wish I was a f/t salaried pastor? I'm not going to lie, yes there are. But overall I am glad that I have never been a financial burden to any church. I have always preached free, and I believe God has blessed me abundantly. I have very nice temporal things and live well. And I'm not offended that I have to work.
I dont preach or pastor because I need a job. I do it because I want to see people saved.
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Hey I have done exactly the same for over 30 years, don't I get the same words?
or do I get a God curse you. you stink?
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09-23-2014, 08:32 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
Hey I have done exactly the same for over 30 years, don't I get the same words?
or do I get a God curse you. you stink?
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too. Even though we might disagree on tithing.
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Philippians 2:12 - ...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
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09-23-2014, 09:13 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by Esphes45
too. Even though we might disagree on tithing. |
well you surprise me,
I wasn't expecting that response from you
you are a decent person. 
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09-24-2014, 08:22 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
Hey I have done exactly the same for over 30 years, don't I get the same words?
or do I get a God curse you. you stink?
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Haven't you pronounced a curse on others? You have referred to those that do not prescribe to the tithe doctrine as " God robbers"? These are folk who are giving, some more and some less than ten percent. Yet they are thieves?
That is abuse and manipulation of the bride.
it sounds like you have made allot of personal sacrifice to the ministry. I commend you. But what about the layman who may not have 10% to give but has donated much of his time and gasoline to support his church and pastor? Is he still a thief?
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09-23-2014, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Originalist
What a baseless argument. Leaders are called to serve the bride of Christ, not demand money out of her for services rendered.
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Amen to that.
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09-23-2014, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
Correction it was started by God himself.
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That's possible but you can't prove that. Heathens were tithing before the Law. It was common in ancient cultures. But really was a "tax" of sorts.
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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09-23-2014, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
Don't get yourself so high and pure.
I am a too a working minister. I have never taken a single penny from the ministry, I have always preached free for over 30 years, can you say the same?
For over 30 years I have preached the tithe, yet I have taken nothing from the collection plate, but instead have contributed thousands of dollars and countless hours to the ministry without receiving a single cent.
So please spare me.
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Excuse me brother
( Backs away slowly while bowing down)
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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09-23-2014, 01:03 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
Well one thing I do know is that I would not want a church member with an attitude like yours.
God does not need your money at all, you can keep it all.
Go on your merry way and enjoy the money you have robbed from God.
Go to McDonalds and buy yourself the latest mega super duper burger with fries and a drink and enjoy it.
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You seem so angry and bitter at us because we don't believe the Law of Tithing is still in effect under the new covenant.
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Originally Posted by Jason Badejo
That's possible but you can't prove that. Heathens were tithing before the Law. It was common in ancient cultures. But really was a "tax" of sorts.
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I've also read this to be true.
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword
Don't get yourself so high and pure.
I am a too a working minister. I have never taken a single penny from the ministry, I have always preached free for over 30 years, can you say the same?
For over 30 years I have preached the tithe, yet I have taken nothing from the collection plate, but instead have contributed thousands of dollars and countless hours to the ministry without receiving a single cent.
So please spare me.
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ahhh... the source of the anger and bitterness?
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09-23-2014, 01:19 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by obriencp
ahhh... the source of the anger and bitterness?
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ahhh... the source of some nutty idea.
listen buddy, I did not enter into the ministry to make money, on the contrary, if I wanted money, I would have concentrated more on my secular career and less on the ministry.
so you can take your suspicious or assumptious Ahhh....somewhere else instead of trying to somehow smear me with some idiotic suppositions of your imagination.
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