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Old 03-05-2008, 02:27 PM
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yeah, but when i got specific and named names and specific documents and instances i was crucified for it. i guess i'll just have to go back to my closet and pick my scabs in private.
I thought it was okay to speak what you know in this forum as long as you can prove it, esp if you're going to name names.

I missed your crucifiction? j/k
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Pelathais does that occasionally as well. Try to resist the broadbrushing, though, it becomes extremely annoying!
And you just did it!

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Old 04-10-2008, 08:31 PM
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Tim is on this forum, incase you all did not know it. I have seen the effects of his work which were good. But unfortuantely I have heard some negative too. But you can not believe all you hear. I commend what he is doing. He has that fire for seeing the lost saved.

There was a new church plant in Tempe, AZ and he did amazing work there, but not all the people stayed but you can not expect all to stay. That chuch still have over 100 there. I know people in Knoxville, Tn that go to the UPC church there and he did a meeting for them and had a good turn out. His brand of outreach works from what I can tell.
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3 more baptized yesterday (thursday) and getting ready to head out in a bit for more.

No matter anyones philosophy of ministry, the guys a hitter who delivers for the local church.

his website is www.gowinsouls.com and book him, its worthwhile.
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Old 04-11-2008, 07:47 PM
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Tim is on this forum, incase you all did not know it. I have seen the effects of his work which were good. But unfortuantely I have heard some negative too. But you can not believe all you hear. I commend what he is doing. He has that fire for seeing the lost saved.

There was a new church plant in Tempe, AZ and he did amazing work there, but not all the people stayed but you can not expect all to stay. That chuch still have over 100 there. I know people in Knoxville, Tn that go to the UPC church there and he did a meeting for them and had a good turn out. His brand of outreach works from what I can tell.
Want to clarify my post here. The 'negative' I have heard is nothing bad at all. I was very minor and was about giving a sub par altar call one night. Tim, though I do not know him personally is a good guy from what I am told. He do respect all he does and wish that I could do the same as he does. I hope that this post was did not offend or hurt anyones perception of Tim. I would recommend him cause I have seen what his work does. It changes lives!

Tim, personally I would like to apologize for any hurt or inconvience this may have caused. I should have clarified what I 'heard'. But I do want to mention that I do stand by the part of my post where I said, "you can not believe all you hear." I do want to mention that the people that told me this about Tim also said that one nights altar call was the only down point of the whole thing. People DID receive the HG that night as well as others. So please forgive me if the post caused any harm.

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well... I have a 16 week followup system, a new convert training program setup, and i have been training bible study teachers to help out. I understand what some are saying, but I think your guns are pointed in the wrong direction on this thread.
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You are going to cause a riot when you tell the blue denim whales they have to smile while they are shopping. Smiling and saying hello are two of the best tools of soul winning. You don't have that, you don't have a snowball's chance in July of winning a soul. The followup is easy. Be friends. Be real. Not EVERY thing has to be about God. My wife and I were mentoring a family for 3 months before we even brought up baptism. We got more than we bargained for. We got the whole family. We were expecting just mom and dad, but the kids wanted baptized as well.

I heard one person say if a visitor doesn't connect with at least six people in your church within six months, they will be out the door. I've seen that proven true time and time again. Get them connected with the right people and they will stay.

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well... I have a 16 week followup system, a new convert training program setup, and i have been training bible study teachers to help out. I understand what some are saying, but I think your guns are pointed in the wrong direction on this thread.
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You are going to cause a riot when you tell the blue denim whales they have to smile while they are shopping. Smiling and saying hello are two of the best tools of soul winning. You don't have that, you don't have a snowball's chance in July of winning a soul. The followup is easy. Be friends. Be real. Not EVERY thing has to be about God. My wife and I were mentoring a family for 3 months before we even brought up baptism. We got more than we bargained for. We got the whole family. We were expecting just mom and dad, but the kids wanted baptized as well.

I heard one person say if a visitor doesn't connect with at least six people in your church within six months, they will be out the door. I've seen that proven true time and time again. Get them connected with the right people and they will stay.
I couldn't agree with this more!!! Case in point:

I have been taking a Citizen's Academy at the Sheriff's dept. and have never identified myself as Pastor. The Jail administrator and I are friends and I also teach a 2hr class there once a week. Our class last week was a tour of the jail. As we went in, one of the ladies saw my name on the sign in sheet to enter the jail and said that she noticed I was there once that day already. She asked what I did and I told her. Well, they used me as a demonstration to show how to "extract" inmates from a cell when they were uncooperative. I kind of got beat up a little. Cuffs, shackles, restrained in a chair, the whole works. Anyway, this lady talked to me just a little and I was kind to her. She asked where I pastored.

Long story short, she was at church this Sunday. I recognized her as the only person @ NLC that has EVER seen the pastor in cuffs and shackles. We had a great service and she said that she would be back.

We regularly have people visit who our folks have met in the course of their lives just by being Christians. Have we moved so far from that, that we now need a formula for reaching souls, because our Christianity is so weak and watered down.

I think it is a shame that we have to have some special person basically "hired" to get people to come to church. But that's only my opinion!
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Hey, this is great. I apologize for being facetious. I think this great. Anything that is a benefit for the kingdom is ok by me and I wish them all the blessings of God.
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It was brief but bloody and I lost. Names are ok as long as it's not certain names. Certain people are off limits. That's ok, it doesn't change the truth of what I know and saw and experienced personally. I'm not bitter...I'm better. sniff. I good looking, smart...and darn it, people like me!
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