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Old 03-28-2008, 07:53 PM
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Re: Not enough faith? Too much sin?

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As illustrated above, sickness is not a cause of a lack of faith, but the inability to receive our healing when Jesus bore it for us is absolutely a lack of faith.
I read what you said, but it comes to this: In the example you cited about the young girl who died of cancer, or the story I posted that started this thread, would you tell either of the parents that their kid is dead because of lack of faith on their part? Ok, even if you didn't TELL them that, in the end, is that what your thinking?
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:05 AM
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Re: Not enough faith? Too much sin?

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In the example you cited about the young girl who died of cancer... would you tell either of the parents that their kid is dead because of lack of faith on their part?
First of all, no! I would not tell a person this. What value is it. Is there anything harder than loosing a child?

What is my thinking? This life is about people not systems. The reality is we all have a level of faith. Nothing right or wrong about this. We are where we are which is a result of the Word (Rom 10:17).

I had a man in my church diagnosed with prostrate cancer. He called me over and told me the three options the doctor gave him and then asked what I would do. My answer, "I can't tell you what I would do because it might kill you."

Why? I don't do doctors! I have nothing against them, I just don't need them so a doctor giving me three options means absolutely nothing to me. Jesus gave me one option...believe and all things are possible. That is a much better option to me.

I asked him how fast he needed to make a decision. Doctor said within a couple of weeks. He's retired so I told him to get in his room, get into the Word, pray and see which option God would have him do. He called me back about a week later with tears in his eyes and said, "I believe God wants me to just trust Him."

My response, "I can agree with that." It's been four years this July, no treatment, no problems, he's a healthy booger! In fact, at 74 he went to India with me last October.

Where ever we are in life the goal is to increase our faith not to damage people with facts. We are to heal the broken hearted, not damage it beyond repair.

There is a reality of life in a saying that I use, "Past failures produce future fears." Something as damaging as the lost of a child can place a person in a position that they can easily turn their back on God. You comfort, love, help, and bring them to a place where they can still trust the Lord.

The problem with this family, was me. I have unflinching faith and my church is strong in faith. I know how to make faith work and I teach strongly on walking by faith. We don't have faith accidents, we continually do the impossible.

They knew better. They just allowed the voice of the doctor to carry more weight than the voice of God in a difficult time in their life. It's logical to do what they did, but "faithless" is clearly defined in the Bible.
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