The righteous will scarcely be saved - Page 3

#21 03-21-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM

Hmmm....I understand this verse to mean that the righteous will be judged adn therefore will "scarcely be saved" because they may or may not make it.

I don't believe that the Bride of Christ will be judged.

Is there anyone outside the bride of Christ (the Church) that is righteous?

LaVonne · #22 03-21-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan

Is there anyone outside the bride of Christ (the Church) that is righteous?

What about those who went before us...those who we plan to meet in heaven that never had the Holy Ghost...are they righteous? I think so. We've got the Holy Ghost...we are Holy.

#23 03-21-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM

What about those who went before us...those who we plan to meet in heaven that never had the Holy Ghost...are they righteous? I think so. We've got the Holy Ghost...we are Holy.

Is there anyone within the Church Age (Pentecost to the blessed hope or "rapture") that fits that category? Maybe you're referring to the Old Testament saints, who are not part of the Church. Are they the same "righteous" as Peter was referring to or are they the righteous John was referring to in Revelation (the ones who will be ruled on the new Earth?

LaVonne · #24 03-21-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan

Is there anyone within the Church Age (Pentecost to the blessed hope or "rapture") that fits that category? Maybe you're referring to the Old Testament saints, who are not part of the Church. Are they the same "righteous" as Peter was referring to or are they the righteous John was referring to in Revelation (the ones who will be ruled on the new Earth?

Well Chan, I really don't have time to get into all that I believe on this subject. I really wanted to know what others, especially preachers feel about the scripture I asked about, if it applies to the Bride of Christ and how they use it when preaching.

We've always had this scripture hammered down our throats with fear and trembling...I mean if I don't stay on my knees in repentance 24/7, I may not make it. Do all teach it this way? (actually I know they don't, but am curious who does/doesn't)

Michael The Disciple · #25 03-21-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM

Well Chan, I really don't have time to get into all that I believe on this subject. I really wanted to know what others, especially preachers feel about the scripture I asked about, if it applies to the Bride of Christ and how they use it when preaching.

We've always had this scripture hammered down our throats with fear and trembling...I mean if I don't stay on my knees in repentance 24/7, I may not make it. Do all teach it this way? (actually I know they don't, but am curious who does/doesn't)

The righteous are in contrast to the sinner and ungodly. All believers have to be righteous as well as holy. Whoever's works are not perfect will be blotted out of the book of life. Rev. 3:1-5

I have never heard anyone teach you have to be repenting 24/7 to make it in. If you were repenting every day that would mean you commit sin every day. Those who commit sin continually will not be in Heaven.

LaVonne · #26 03-21-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The righteous are in contrast to the sinner and ungodly. All believers have to be righteous as well as holy. Whoever's works are not perfect will be blotted out of the book of life. Rev. 3:1-5

I have never heard anyone teach you have to be repenting 24/7 to make it in. If you were repenting every day that would mean you commit sin every day. Those who commit sin continually will not be in Heaven.

I agree with the bolded part! I'm glad you feel this way....sadly, not all do.

Scott Hutchinson · #27 03-21-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM

Ok, but the question I keep asking that no one seems to want to answer is, is this verse refering to the Bride of Christ?

The Bride of Christ and the church are one in the same who else but the church is considered righteous?

Ron · #28 03-21-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CareyM

Hmmm....I understand this verse to mean that the righteous will be judged adn therefore will "scarcely be saved" because they may or may not make it.

I don't believe that the Bride of Christ will be judged.

We the Saints are constantly being judged everyday by conviction, and through reading the reflection of God's word (how are you measuring up?) remember the scrupture in Corrinthians where it says for us to examine ourselves before we take communion?

If we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.

#29 03-21-2007, 06:21 PM

Sis. Carey,

Are you sure you don't believe the Bride will be judged? What is your scriptural basis for that belief? It is appointed unto man once to die and after this the judgement. What about that scripture excludes the bride of Christ?

LaVonne · #30 03-21-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

We the Saints are constantly being judged everyday by conviction, and through reading the reflection of God's word (how are you measuring up?) remember the scrupture in Corrinthians where it says for us to examine ourselves before we take communion?

If we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged.

I agree with what you are saying here...thanks Ron!

Btw...how are you feeling today? What did the doctor have to say?