Lavish Lifestyle Ministry Spending - Page 7

George · #1 10-10-2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason

i am too disgusted to comment much.

i am amazed at how some people defend these guys lifestyles, self proclaimed *profits*

it is a shame that some among us think godliness is a means for gain

Apparently you haven't read the entire thread. There are many ministers who are indenpendently wealthy without taking a dime from their church. Some made it in real estate, some in farming, some from inheiritance, some from wise investments, etc. These same men have built great churches full of people who love and respect them. Of course I will defend them.

StMark · #2 10-10-2008, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by George

Apparently you haven't read the entire thread. There are many ministers who are indenpendently wealthy without taking a dime from their church. Some made it in real estate, some in farming, some from inheiritance, some from wise investments, etc. These same men have built great churches full of people who love and respect them. Of course I will defend them.

I have NO problem with preachers being independantly wealthy so long as they are not flaunting and flashing it (on purpose)
in front of a church full of poor and middle class members. Like the ones who preach everyone to hell and then arrive in St john suits?

One of the big secrets amongst the ministry is, a lot of old timers were very wealthy. I can think of 2 of our pioneers in CA.
that were quite wealthy but they pretty much lived within the means of their church.

Other oldtimers never saved a dime, Always thought the rapture would take place before they got old and
ended up being a burden to their families.

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George · #3 10-10-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StMark

I have NO problem with preachers being independantly wealthy so long as they are not flaunting and flashing it (on purpose)
in front of a church full of poor and middle class members. Like the ones who preach everyone to hell and then arrive in St john suits?

One of the big secrets amongst the ministry is, a lot of old timers were very wealthy. I can think of 2 of our pioneers in CA.
that were quite wealthy but they pretty much lived within the means of their church.

Other oldtimers never saved a dime, Always thought the rapture would take place before they got old and
ended up being a burden to their families.

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Well, there are hypocrites in every arena.

Most of the really wealthy preachers I know, have worked hard to get where they are and their congregation respects them for their hard work and dedication. I'd rather have it be that way then to have the broke old-timer forcing the church to give him a big retirement after he has run a good church into the ground.

Praxeas · #4 10-10-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by George

Apparently you haven't read the entire thread. There are many ministers who are indenpendently wealthy without taking a dime from their church. Some made it in real estate, some in farming, some from inheiritance, some from wise investments, etc. These same men have built great churches full of people who love and respect them. Of course I will defend them.

The ones that got wealthy from investments without taking a dime...do you mean they got rich before becoming pastors?

That's great...after becoming Pastors do they accept donations and tithe from the flock and keep it for personal use or do they redirect it to others who are not rich and in dire need of financial help?

Jas 2:5 Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?

George · #5 10-10-2008, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

The ones that got wealthy from investments without taking a dime...do you mean they got rich before becoming pastors?

That's great...after becoming Pastors do they accept donations and tithe from the flock and keep it for personal use or do they redirect it to others who are not rich and in dire need of financial help?

Jas 2:5 Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him?

Some of the ones I know, were making big money before becoming pastors. One pastor who I know very well, was a contractor and a saint who received a call to ministry. He continued his contractor business and went to a city, built a church, won people to the Lord, and every dollar that came into the church whether tithe or offerings, stayed in the church accounts and paid for a second new building. He has never taken any monies from the church which now runs about 300 people. Everything the church does, they pay cash and are not in debt for anything. This pastor has poured his own blood, sweat, tears, and many dollars, into his church. He is a highly respected UPCI minister.

Praxeas · #6 10-10-2008, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by George

Some of the ones I know, were making big money before becoming pastors. One pastor who I know very well, was a contractor and a saint who received a call to ministry. He continued his contractor business and went to a city, built a church, won people to the Lord, and every dollar that came into the church whether tithe or offerings, stayed in the church accounts and paid for a second new building. He has never taken any monies from the church which now runs about 300 people. Everything the church does, they pay cash and are not in debt for anything. This pastor has poured his own blood, sweat, tears, and many dollars, into his church. He is a highly respected UPCI minister.

Good example

stmatthew · #7 10-09-2008, 11:10 PM

I am blessed!

Sister Alvear · #8 10-10-2008, 09:24 AM

one day we shall all give account for our spending in the light of eternity...

MamaHen · #9 10-12-2008, 08:53 AM

How about a "new pastor" that comes in and drains the thousands of dollars in the church's "building fund" account to build himself his own private bathroom for his office, with marble counters, and the whole works.

But it is still in the "church building" so I guess that makes it okay....

Bro-Larry · #10 10-12-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MamaHen

How about a "new pastor" that comes in and drains the thousands of dollars in the church's "building fund" account to build himself his own private bathroom for his office, with marble counters, and the whole works.

But it is still in the "church building" so I guess that makes it okay....

Was there no oversight here?