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07-22-2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Originally Posted by Pro31:28
I appreciate your convictions, such as they are. I do wonder though about women in the church, in your opinion what is their place?
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Ok,, you guys just love getting me in trouble don't you?
You see you ask my opinion and I will give it and this board will call me hateful and out of touch... but here is my opinion
I believe a womans place first and foremost is as the nuturer of her children and the helper of her husband... you will forgive me if that sounds archaic
In the church her role is as Paul said.. Pauls mentions the woman praying and Prophesying.... with her head covered in reverence to her head which is her husband... there is a strong admonition for women to be used of God in prayer and the gifts of the Spirit.... and as workers she is simply forbidden because of "the beginning" to have any authority over a man..... not that the man is better than her but he is her head... I KNOW, I KNOW.. how dare I say such things..... but she is allowed to TEACH THE WOMEN,, Paul encourages the older women to teach the younger women.... she does wonderfully in connecting with children and training them in the ways of God... but when she stands to bring forth doctrine, rebuke, correction, exhortation she is stepping in an authorative position over the souls of men and God has forbidden it.... sorry.. no harm intended
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07-22-2008, 03:42 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Ok,, you guys just love getting me in trouble don't you?
You see you ask my opinion and I will give it and this board will call me hateful and out of touch... but here is my opinion
I believe a womans place first and foremost is as the nuturer of her children and the helper of her husband... you will forgive me if that sounds archaic
In the church her role is as Paul said.. Pauls mentions the woman praying and Prophesying.... with her head covered in reverence to her head which is her husband... there is a strong admonition for women to be used of God in prayer and the gifts of the Spirit.... and as workers she is simply forbidden because of "the beginning" to have any authority over a man..... not that the man is better than her but he is her head... I KNOW, I KNOW.. how dare I say such things..... but she is allowed to TEACH THE WOMEN,, Paul encourages the older women to teach the younger women.... she does wonderfully in connecting with children and training them in the ways of God... but when she stands to bring forth doctrine, rebuke, correction, exhortation she is stepping in an authorative position over the souls of men and God has forbidden it.... sorry.. no harm intended
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No harm taken,
I was just curious about your feelings on this. I find it interesting that Women not preaching, and lack of remarriage, and no hair-cutting are three things that you decided to point out in your post. It seems as if you are looking to cause controversy.
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07-22-2008, 03:45 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Originally Posted by Pro31:28
No harm taken,
I was just curious about your feelings on this. I find it interesting that Women not preaching, and lack of remarriage, and no hair-cutting are three things that you decided to point out in your post. It seems as if you are looking to cause controversy.
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Ok you can cut your hair, and preach, but the remarriage thing you are stuck!!
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07-22-2008, 03:48 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Ok you can cut your hair, and preach, but the remarriage thing you are stuck!!
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Sorry Baron,, not following you... come again
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07-22-2008, 03:52 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Originally Posted by Pro31:28
No harm taken,
I was just curious about your feelings on this. I find it interesting that Women not preaching, and lack of remarriage, and no hair-cutting are three things that you decided to point out in your post. It seems as if you are looking to cause controversy.
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Ok you can cut your hair, and preach, but the remarriage thing you are stuck!!
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Sorry Baron,, not following you... come again
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Pro31:28 is my wife. And she can preach to anyone who will listen, and she is sucha good preacher that the men stay and listen too. In fact I remember one man telling her after she preached that she was the best natural speaker he had ever heard.
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07-22-2008, 03:56 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Pro31:28 is my wife. And she can preach to anyone who will listen, and she is sucha good preacher that the men stay and listen too. In fact I remember one man telling her after she preached that she was the best natural speaker he had ever heard.
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You are the spiritual head of your home... direct it in the path you feel God leading you...
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07-22-2008, 03:47 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Originally Posted by Pro31:28
No harm taken,
I was just curious about your feelings on this. I find it interesting that Women not preaching, and lack of remarriage, and no hair-cutting are three things that you decided to point out in your post. It seems as if you are looking to cause controversy.
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No, those just happen to be the topics of discussion as of late
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07-22-2008, 03:50 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
DV. I have discussed the doctrine at length with it's proponents. I have no problems discussing it. I doesn't concern us what someone else did in order to discuss these issues.,
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07-22-2008, 03:55 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Ok,, you guys just love getting me in trouble don't you?
You see you ask my opinion and I will give it and this board will call me hateful and out of touch... but here is my opinion
I believe a womans place first and foremost is as the nuturer of her children and the helper of her husband... you will forgive me if that sounds archaic
In the church her role is as Paul said.. Pauls mentions the woman praying and Prophesying.... with her head covered in reverence to her head which is her husband... there is a strong admonition for women to be used of God in prayer and the gifts of the Spirit.... and as workers she is simply forbidden because of "the beginning" to have any authority over a man..... not that the man is better than her but he is her head... I KNOW, I KNOW.. how dare I say such things..... but she is allowed to TEACH THE WOMEN,, Paul encourages the older women to teach the younger women.... she does wonderfully in connecting with children and training them in the ways of God... but when she stands to bring forth doctrine, rebuke, correction, exhortation she is stepping in an authorative position over the souls of men and God has forbidden it.... sorry.. no harm intended
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I agree with Dr. Vaughn! Women can teach 70 or so % of the population. Women and children. I also agree that women should not teach not stand in or have authority over men.
Oh and your family is beautiful!
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07-22-2008, 03:57 PM
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Re: Do you consider a fundamentalist, out of touch
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Originally Posted by LUKE2447
I agree with Dr. Vaughn! Women can teach 70 or so % of the population. Women and children. I also agree that women should not teach not stand in or have authority over men.
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Its nice to make your aquaintence... I have never understood why a lady is not satisfied with those God has placed in her realm of influence.. other ladies and our precious children... why must they feel compelled to have authority over the SONS of God?
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