This is for all the Trinity haters out there - Page 6

TCSQ · #51 09-09-2008, 02:53 PM

Wonder if it would be acceptable for an Apostolic Mother and Father to name one of their sons say...Mohmammed or Buddha or Krishna? The word Trinity describes the doctrine that has been the very test many times in centuries past which was used to decide wether men have either lived or died viscious brutal deaths. Many saints of God went to their deaths BECAUSE they rejected that doctrine called the TRINITY, It is a word that universally has as its CHIEF definition a doctrine that redefines God from being a person with many traits, to being a STATE of being that SEVERAL persons mystically tap into or derive their existence from.

I guess a parent could name their kid anything they chose to including Potato Salad, but why on earth would you want to? Because you like the phonetic sound of it? Or because you would like to commemorate the trinity in your own flesh and bloods name? Anyway the question is mystifying as to motivation. But you asked us, no one here is volunteering an opinion that has not been asked for.

Jack Shephard · #52 09-09-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TCSQ

Wonder if it would be acceptable for an Apostolic Mother and Father to name one of their sons say...Mohmammed or Buddha or Krishna? The word Trinity describes the doctrine that has been the very test many times in centuries past which was used to decide wether men have either lived or died viscious brutal deaths. Many saints of God went to their deaths BECAUSE they rejected that doctrine called the TRINITY, It is a word that universally has as its CHIEF definition a doctrine that redefines God from being a person with many traits, to being a STATE of being that SEVERAL persons mystically tap into or derive their existence from.

I guess a parent could name their kid anything they chose to including Potato Salad, but why on earth would you want to? Because you like the phonetic sound of it? Or because you would like to commemorate the trinity in your own flesh and bloods name? Anyway the question is mystifying as to motivation. But you asked us, no one here is volunteering an opinion that has not been asked for.

True. But you are making light of this. This is a valid question. I see that my motivation for asking was true. Some Apostolics are taught to hate the 'trinity' so bad that they make it apparently known. I have no problems with kids named Mohammed or anything else. This is hilarious! As one of several on here that know that God's nature is Triune another question comes to mind. God is Triune and you hate the trinity then is God happy with you? I mean I would think that if you hate the nature of God then that wouldn't make him happy, but that is just me.

Would you name your kid oneness? Probably so cause it seems that some people in this movement love to glorify what they believe more than glorify the one in whom they believe. Remember the sond "I am a Penetcostal"? All self glorification, IMO.

TCSQ · #53 09-09-2008, 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=JTULLOCK;586176]True. But you are making light of this.

BELIEVE ME I am not making light of this at all. If I was I certainly would not be referring to the martyrdom of faithful men and women of God in reference to the question.

This is a valid question. I see that my motivation for asking was true. Some Apostolics are taught to hate the 'trinity' so bad that they make it apparently known.

I have no problems with kids named Mohammed or anything else.

That of course would be because you are far removed from the violence that is done to your brethren fellow christians by disciples of Mohammed. If you were a little closer to the issue say living in Jordan or Syria and you as a Christian asked this question the silence would be deafening! Names mean things, and again Trinity defines a godhead doctrine that originates in Platos trinitas and has been responsible century after century as the test of orthodoxy whereby men and women boys and girls have payed with their lives for denying. You think I treat that as a Light Issue?

This is hilarious! As one of several on here that know that God's nature is Triune another question comes to mind. God is Triune and you hate the trinity then is God happy with you?

Friend the trinity definitely is NOT a biblical doctrine of God. It IS the name of the doctrine formulated first (among Christians) by Tertullian as a binatarian doctrine which he later appended under pressure to include the Holy Ghost as a third person and then formalized in the following centuries at several councils of the Imperial Church. It IS the defining doctrine used to obliterate tens of thousands if not MORE down through the centuries in horrific persecutions. OR didnt you know that? I mean maybe you ARE unaware of that, which certainly would make your question a lot less troubling.

I mean I would think that if you hate the nature of God then that wouldn't make him happy, but that is just me.

The nature of God is that he is ONE. That he is the HOLY ONE. That he ALONE is God.

Would you name your kid oneness? Probably so cause it seems that some people in this movement love to glorify what they believe more than glorify the one in whom they believe.

That statement seems pretty inconsistent from a man who seriously considered doing pretty much the same thing dont you think? (Just substitute the word Trinity in your question for oneness and you'll catch my drift)

Remember the sond "I am a Penetcostal"? All self glorification, IMO.

That certaily would be your opinion, but I thouroughly enjoyed a song that says

If your tired of tradition Religions done you wrong
You're feeling dry and empty No longer have a song
The story is not over Things for you can change
You'll feel the fire burning as the spirit fans the flame
There's millions who have come
and Millions on the way they're leaving their dead churches for
This Pentecostal Faith

no that song THRILLED me! No more self glorifying than singing I am my beloveds my beloved is mine and his banner over me is love...."I'm a child of the King" Or "I AM A FRIEND OF GOD!" OR I'm so glad I'm a part of the Family of God."

You know there is a phrase common amongst the Jews who tire of other Jews who are always so negative about their own people. Picking, ridiculing, mocking their OWN people! They call them "Self Hating Jews" I sadly see this same trait among so many MANY on this forum. Whats the deal Neal? Why do YOU think that is?

**********************************************ANYW AY*******************************************
The chorus to the above song I'm a Pentecostal and I am not ashamed! Is merely an affirmation that although some people may feel that the Pentecostal message is a shame and (evidently there are some "Pentecostals" who secretly or openly feel that way Too) the singers DO NOT and a bold proclamation of their UNASHAMEDNESS in the defining doctrines of Jesus Church on the New Birth is certainly anything BUT something to be ashamed of. I mean ashamed of Being baptized in Jesus Name? Filled with the Holy Ghost? Apostolic?ONE GOD? ASHAMED?????Not this kid!

Jack Shephard · #54 09-09-2008, 04:02 PM

Look, there is one God and His nature is Triune. He is the Father, Son and the HG--thus Tri(three) une(united)--Triune. I do know that the teaching of tritheism was created in order to trick alot of believers. When it was created it Matt 28:19 was used to help to "verify" that teaching. Much similar to some verses used to convey standards or other things that people misapply.

The question of naming a child Trinity was the point of this thread and it has become abundantly clear that you and I am sure others like you are oneness homers and do not consider the nature of the creator. Being Jesus Only is not bad, but being Jesus Only in doctrine is. When Jesus died on earth God was still in heaven. I am sure you believe that, but to deny that God is Triune is of base, IMO. I am oneness to the core but not to the degree that I ignore that God is Triune or multiune is nature or actions.

I am also aware of murders by people name Mohammed due to religion. I know of people named Charlie that killed out of religion or religious beliefs but I am not counting out the name Charile. Nor would I count out the name Jospeh (Joseph Smith of the LDS faith) cause he was a Prophet to that movement. I think the name Trinity is a cool name it calls in to mind human nature matching Gods nature. We as humans are triune too. Would you deny that too?

seguidordejesus · #55 09-09-2008, 04:22 PM

I would not name my daughter Trinity, but there is a girl in our church named that who is a new convert

Jack Shephard · #56 09-09-2008, 04:23 PM

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I would not name my daughter Trinity, but there is a girl in our church named that who is a new convert

How is she treated, by the oneness folk?

Rebecamia · #57 09-09-2008, 04:35 PM

I actually think that Trinity is a very cute name for a little girl, but I'm too afraid I might get a child with a personality complex or something if I named her that.

TCSQ · #58 09-09-2008, 04:38 PM

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How is she treated, by the oneness folk?

Oh come on...How do you THINK Oneness folk would treat a little girl regardless of her name? Do you think they would SHUN her ...maybe openly humiliate and taunt her? Brother what is it with you having such a low esteem for your own brethren?

seguidordejesus · #59 09-09-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

How is she treated, by the oneness folk?

We make her sit on the back corner pew, and refuse to let her play the tambourine, even though she really wants to. We do let her use the bathroom, though, if she pays a quarter.

Jack Shephard · #60 09-09-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TCSQ

Oh come on...How do you THINK Oneness folk would treat a little girl regardless of her name? Do you think they would SHUN her ...maybe openly humiliate and taunt her? Brother what is it with you having such a low esteem for your own brethren?

I don't think that as a little kid the apostolic adults would give grief but as the child got older then yes there would be grief. There would certainly be garbage thrown on the parents you bet your house on it.