To All CAF'ers, EA'ers, and AFF'ers - Page 15

Praxeas · #**141** 09-18-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ronharvey

Wow,

You guys blow me away.

Bless God, If you don't embrace interracial marriage, your a Redneck, Hillbilly, Nazi, and anything else I case to call you because I can be prejudiced against you by claiming your prejudice.

And, I can fly it in the face of ALL the Bible that tells me that God has set the boundaries of the gentiles that they cannot cross.

And heaven forbid Arron becoming the High Priest because he stuck a spear through an Israelite in his tent: because that Israelite broke a commandment of God and took a wife of a different nation (family).

I attend an assembly that knows full well I don't believe in interracial marriage.

But, our assembly if full of interracial couples.

I am good friends with many of them, I just simply don't share their belief that it doesn't matter.

So, you guys can pretend your not spritural rednecks if you want, but this thread shows you are just as hateful and pre-judging as you accuse others of being.

Ron

God never ever forbid inter-RACIAL marriages. The verse you cite was about marrying a pagan...a non believer.

And BTW most of us would be considered gentiles...blacks and whites.

BTW the great great great great great great etc grandmother of Jesus was a Moabite woman

Praxeas · #**142** 09-18-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Actually Ron, you blow me away with your [mis]use of scripture to support racial separatism.
And it's even more amazing that you actually seem to think that God would be agreement with you on this.
And people who criticize those who oppose interracial relationships are "hateful and prejudging"? Are you serious with this?

(sigh)

You may want to study of this issue further, brother.... because frankly, the Biblical record is are not on your side.

You're incorrect on several counts here...

1... It was not Aaron the high priest. It was Phineas, the grandson of Aaron. (Numbers 25:6-15), so at least lets start off with the proper facts here... but more importantly...
2... The issue was not simply that she was a foreign woman. The issue was that she was from a nation that served other gods. God's issue was not with the race or ethnic background of the person -- it was with the RELIGIOUS background of the person. The reason God frowned upon the Israelites marrying poeople of the surrounding nations was that they'd be tempted to follow their gods. Study it and you will see.. issue was always religion, NEVER race.

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3... God actually made provisions for Israelite men of war to take the women of the surrounding nations as wives, so long as they went through a purification process he prescribed for them (Deut 21:10-14). Here again, the issue was not their race/ethnicity. God's concern was was that these women would be properly grafted into the nation of Israel and become followers of God's law.

Also keep in mind also, that Moses, a Hebrew, was married to an Ethiopian woman. God had no problem with that. But obviously his sister Miriam did. When Miriam murmured against Moses because of it God struck Miriam with leprosy until she repented. God was displeased with prejudice back then, and he still is today.

My point remains: Much, if not most, of the opposition to interracial relationships is rooted in prejudice. Such sentiments have no place in God's church. Its unfortunate that too many in the church world try to use and misuse scripture to justify their own latent [and sometimes blatant] prejudices.

Good post and right on. They WERE allowed to marry from the other nations, but those women were expected to leave their gods and convert

Scott Hutchinson · #**143** 09-18-2008, 03:04 PM

Here is a pretty good article.http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/interace.html

Praxeas · #**144** 09-18-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ronharvey

Why do people not know the difference between Nationalities and Race?

When you learn the difference, we'll talk.

Ron

Well Ron you did cite Aaron killing someone for taking a wife of other nations/families...that's not exactly race either.

Biologically there are 3 races and then from there there may be subraces...

One thing is for sure...Israelites were semites....not Europeans or Asians...until they intermarried with other groups. You can't really find any pure semite anymore after all these years.

Scott Hutchinson · #**145** 09-18-2008, 03:19 PM

And why was Abraham called a Hebrew in the first place, ? it was because He was a descendant of Heber,it wasn't because of his pigment of his skin.
I've got to go to work,I would like to post some more,but duty calls.

Tyrel Sackett · #**146** 09-18-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

I will let those people speak for themselves if they wish to.
Meanwhile, the fact that I dont wish to divulge names doesnt make it any less true that CAF has a reputation for being somewhat exclusivist.

But please take off the rose-colored glasses, sir. Dont allow yourself to be blinded by your self-perceived need to defend CAF.

Unless they've hired you as a defense attorney, they should be able to defend themselves.

Being exclusive???? It is a CONSERVATIVE APOSTOLIC FORUM. We preach against tv, jewelry, makeup and women with cut hair. We are not AFF. What do you think we are going to do; let anyone that wants post there. If that is what we wanted we would just stay on AFF.

There were a couple of individuals that continued to push their UPC, for Res #4 agenda and it was stated ONE MORE TIME, our mission statement and what we stood for. Another, that I can think of, was removed because he was not abiding by the mission statement in another area.

Tyrel Sackett · #**147** 09-18-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace

They are just all in a tizzy because they probably know how true it is... there are some very racially biased pastors out there and a lot of them are on CAF and its apparently got them up in arms big time right now... Sad but funny to see their true colors coming thru... There was no gossip tho,,

What a prophet! That is it! No questions asked. You are indeed a prophet...

although it would be a false prophet. ICor2:4 did get a little chewed up on CAF, but he asked for it by trying rebuke everyone. It went over like a cat in a washing machine. Now he's whining and calling foul.

Anyways, take another gander at why we are over here. How many guesses do you need?

Praxeas · #**148** 09-18-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrel Sackett

Being exclusive???? It is a CONSERVATIVE APOSTOLIC FORUM. We preach against tv, jewelry, makeup and women with cut hair. We are not AFF. What do you think we are going to do; let anyone that wants post there. If that is what we wanted we would just stay on AFF.

There were a couple of individuals that continued to push their UPC, for Res #4 agenda and it was stated ONE MORE TIME, our mission statement and what we stood for. Another, that I can think of, was removed because he was not abiding by the mission statement in another area.

If you guys are preaching the truth there then why is the forum private? By private I don't mean you don't allow liberals and mods and cons that don't believe like you, but I mean open to the eyes of everyone? What do the really Conservative have to hide? Surely there is truth being preached and taught on that forum, but it's only being read by the chior

Thumper · #**149** 09-18-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

If you guys are preaching the truth there then why is the forum private? By private I don't mean you don't allow liberals and mods and cons that don't believe like you, but I mean open to the eyes of everyone? What do the really Conservative have to hide? Surely there is truth being preached and taught on that forum, but it's only being read by the chior

I am part of a skiing forum. It is private and It is for skiers only. If you are a snowboarder and wish to advance the cause of snowboarding you are not welcome. if you like both you are welcome to join but if start trying to talk your snowboarding trash you will be banned. Don't like it? Go to a different forum.

1Corinth2v4 · #**150** 09-18-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrel Sackett

ICor2:4 did get a little chewed up on CAF, but he asked for it by trying rebuke everyone. It went over like a cat in a washing machine. Now he's whining and calling foul.

Anyways, take another gander at why we are over here. How many guesses do you need?

Whom did I rebuke? Wipe the venom from your lip my good brethren. Never did I rebuke anyone on caf, save the "dipstick" that threatened my life.

I became weary of reading only anti-television and UPCI defaming threads. Give me something edifying to read, please.