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Old 09-22-2008, 11:27 AM
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More reason NOT to vote for the Dali Bama?
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BRZEZINSKI: OBAMA'S GLOBALIST "RASPUTIN"

By Patrick Briley
September 16, 2008
NewsWithViews.com

Zbigniew Brzezinski is Barack Obama’s foreign policy advisor. Brzezenski was the national security advisor for President Carter from 1977 to 1981. In 1988 he endorsed HW Bush for President and was Co-Chair of the HW Bush national security advisory task force. From 1987 to 1989 he also served on the HW Bush’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. Clinton Secretary of State Madeline Albright was a student of Brzezenski.. GW Bush Secretary of State, Condi Rice (also a former national security advisor), who studied under Albright’s father, shares many of the same world government views with Brzezinski and Albright.

Zbigniew Brzezinski is an advocate of socialist world government, a goal he has promoted as a member of the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and as a speaker at former Soviet Premier and Communist Mikhail Gorbachev’s first World Forum. Brzezinski is an architect of creating regions of global governance from independent nations to achieve world government. At the World Forum Brzezenski described the global regions that are now being put into place under Condi Rice: Israel and the Palestinians (now MEFTA, Middle East Free Trade Association), Iran as part of a Central Asian region, and China as part of a Far Eastern region. As a member of CSIS Brzezinski has guided their efforts to publish the North American Integration Monitor (2002) that calls for the loss of US sovereignty to a North American Union (NAU) as one of the regional global government blocks.

The proposals for global taxes by Obama have come with the recommendations of Zbigniew Brzezinski to pay for globalization and world government. Obama has proposed a global poverty tax in a US Senate bill...

Full article here: http://www.newswithviews.com/Briley2/patrick103.htm
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Related story here: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/..._proposes.html
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:49 PM
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Re: Remind me - Who is voting FOR McCain?

Voting Ron Paul here! I know he has no chance of winning, but I can't vote for either of the two party candidates with a clean conscience.

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Old 09-22-2008, 12:55 PM
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Voting Ron Paul here! I know he has no chance of winning, but I can't vote for either of the two party candidates with a clean conscience.

Keeping it real!
Nice piece of ignorance. Why not go play in the sandbox all day? You'd have as much of a chance to effect on the rest of the world as your Ronnie does.

The dominant two party system rewards the greater of two evils when people can't step outside of their paradigm. You can make a sure bet that that is "REAL."
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Old 09-22-2008, 01:39 PM
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Nice piece of ignorance. Why not go play in the sandbox all day? You'd have as much of a chance to effect on the rest of the world as your Ronnie does.

The dominant two party system rewards the greater of two evils when people can't step outside of their paradigm. You can make a sure bet that that is "REAL."
I always enjoy the godly fellowship and uplifting conversation I find in these political threads!

I'm not sure what my comment had to do with playing in a sandbox, and I don't know who my Ronnie is. All I'm keeping real is the fact that has been voiced over and over on this thread alone and in countless other circles. The two-party system is a failure! The Republican Party that has been trying to pimp the Christian right for decades is NOT the guardian of all that is pure and righteous. They have just as much blood on their hands as the Dems! The landmark Roe v. Wade decision was passed in 1973, and we have had 23 years with the GOP in the White House, compared with 12 Dem, with a congressional majority swinging back and forth during that time. If the GOP is our moral high ground with their promise to reverse abortion, where's the proof? We need to face facts here... WE'VE BEEN DUPED! No Republican or Democrat is going to be the influence needed to turn this nation around. It's the church's responsibility to bring about that change - at a grass-roots level.

Also, I don't understand your second statement about the two party system. Are you agreeing with me that it's a failure? Or are you rebuking me for my inability to step out of my paradigm? Maybe I should go back to the sandbox. At least there everyone played nice or they were taken inside for a nap.

My paradigm is based on a practical application of what I perceive to be biblical principles. I'm not associated with any political party, as I refuse to pledge allegiance to any party's agenda. I'm for voting my conscience and my conscience will not allow me to vote for either parties as I see disastrous outcomes either way. Perhaps it's a wasted vote, but it wouldn't be if more people would step up, reject what is given to them as their only two options, and vote for what they really believe in. Ron Paul has a reputation as being a bit of a whacko because he's an idealist. I guess I'm an idealist as well, which could explain your scathing response. I'm okay with that.

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I always enjoy the godly fellowship and uplifting conversation I find in these political threads!

I'm not sure what my comment had to do with playing in a sandbox, and I don't know who my Ronnie is. All I'm keeping real is the fact that has been voiced over and over on this thread alone and in countless other circles. The two-party system is a failure! The Republican Party that has been trying to pimp the Christian right for decades is NOT the guardian of all that is pure and righteous. They have just as much blood on their hands as the Dems! The landmark Roe v. Wade decision was passed in 1973, and we have had 23 years with the GOP in the White House, compared with 12 Dem, with a congressional majority swinging back and forth during that time. If the GOP is our moral high ground with their promise to reverse abortion, where's the proof? We need to face facts here... WE'VE BEEN DUPED! No Republican or Democrat is going to be the influence needed to turn this nation around. It's the church's responsibility to bring about that change - at a grass-roots level.

Also, I don't understand your second statement about the two party system. Are you agreeing with me that it's a failure? Or are you rebuking me for my inability to step out of my paradigm? Maybe I should go back to the sandbox. At least there everyone played nice or they were taken inside for a nap.

My paradigm is based on a practical application of what I perceive to be biblical principles. I'm not associated with any political party, as I refuse to pledge allegiance to any party's agenda. I'm for voting my conscience and my conscience will not allow me to vote for either parties as I see disastrous outcomes either way. Perhaps it's a wasted vote, but it wouldn't be if more people would step up, reject what is given to them as their only two options, and vote for what they really believe in. Ron Paul has a reputation as being a bit of a whacko because he's an idealist. I guess I'm an idealist as well, which could explain your scathing response. I'm okay with that.

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Old 09-22-2008, 07:45 PM
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Voting Ron Paul here! I know he has no chance of winning, but I can't vote for either of the two party candidates with a clean conscience.

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At times I have expressed a desire to see "none of the above" added to the ballot.

Often when I vote, I don't vote for a person but against a person. Some times I think I am choosing the lesser of two evils.

I may not agree with everything John McCain says he is for but he is a lot closer to what I want than Barack Obama is. Therefore, I have to vote for McCain rather than avoid voting or vote for someone who doesn't have a chance to win. By voting for McCain, it is one more vote against Obama and one less chance of Obama's winning.
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At times I have expressed a desire to see "none of the above" added to the ballot.

Often when I vote, I don't vote for a person but against a person. Some times I think I am choosing the lesser of two evils.

I may not agree with everything John McCain says he is for but he is a lot closer to what I want than Barack Obama is. Therefore, I have to vote for McCain rather than avoid voting or vote for someone who doesn't have a chance to win. By voting for McCain, it is one more vote against Obama and one less chance of Obama's winning.

This best descibes my voting sentiments! And I can say I have voted in every presidential election since 1972 .
I may be considered liberal in apostolic circles but politically I am totally conservative....even UC
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This best descibes my voting sentiments! And I can say I have voted in every presidential election since 1972 .
I may be considered liberal in apostolic circles but politically I am totally conservative....even UC
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I'm absolutely convinced that if one listens to the rhetoric of those who say they will be voting for the McCain-Palin ticket ..... you'd walk away with the notion that either they despise Obama so much that they can't vote for him (against Obama) ... or because they have drunk Palin koolaid ... they are voting for (Palin-McCain)

It's blatantly (and painfully) obvious when one examines even here .... the number of anti-Obama threads and the cutesy Palin avatars ... while others are entranced by the "Palin effect" ... little is offered as to the reasons why we should vote for McCain ... in any.

Even Rush ... is guilty of this ... once a McCain hater, most of his show now is dedicated to everything other than why he's voting FOR McCain.

So why are you not voting FOR McCain again?

If McCain's health holds up ... you are are aware VP's are largely ceremonial and powerless .... right?

You do know that Obama is not the anti-Christ, Muslim or a communist despite what talk radio and email chains feed you day in and day out ... right?

Are you voting on McCain's resolute stand on "Conservative" issues? Doubt it ... if so you'd be voting for Paul or Barr.



When you get a chance take an inventory of the "conservative" analysts you laud and how they are approaching this election ... take a look at how your fellow forumites are approaching this .... and even your own reasons why you are not voting FOR McCain ...

might be a healthy exercise ... it might tell you about THE MAN McCain. It's a campaign based on hate, negativity, pandering and misdirection, IMO.


I'll pre-baptize this thread w/ the following accolades .... for my anti-Obama/Palin voter friends ...



And yes... TRUTH HAS BEEN SPOKEN HERE.

Ok in a nutshell,

While I am not a total McCain fan, this is why I am not voting for Obama

He is not bi-paritisan period, not one effort on record of going against his party.

He has no major contributions politically to speak of.

He has a history of being influenced by Black Liberal Theology that has a Marxist bend to it.

He is a Socialist in his world view

Go to the Southside of Chicago and see how much change he wrought there.

The only change he will bring is that he is not white, not a Republican and he is a better speaker than George W and McCain.

So I am voting for McCain, because I am not voting for Obama
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Ok in a nutshell,

While I am not a total McCain fan, this is why I am not voting for Obama

He is not bi-paritisan period, not one effort on record of going against his party.

He has no major contributions politically to speak of.

He has a history of being influenced by Black Liberal Theology that has a Marxist bend to it.

He is a Socialist in his world view

Go to the Southside of Chicago and see how much change he wrought there.

The only change he will bring is that he is not white, not a Republican and he is a better speaker than George W and McCain.

So I am voting for McCain, because I am not voting for Obama
I doubt that he is any kind of a speaker without teleprompts. He seems pretty slow on the draw and goes into the mantra when he gets a question outside of the list of acceptible questions.
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