What are you? One stepper or Three stepper

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

No it does not prove anything. It simply shows the nature of man not wanting to condemn anyone and show mercy. It has nothing to do with negating ones belief but more of hope that God will some way have away. The one step position is very weak. Also the 1 step position is not really one step. As many believe repentance is not necessary but one is saved by simple faith apart from repentance. 1) Faith 2) Repentance 3) Baptism 4)HS 5)Faithfulness

I will take issue with your statement. The faith towards God is a turning towards God that is done in the believers heart by the work of the Holy Spirit. If one turns from his/her path towards God, is this not repentance? As the prophet wrote, can any two walk togther if they do not agree?

The one step position is much more tenable. Look at Paul's description of Abraham's justification before circumcision. Is not water baptism in the NT what circumcision was in the OT?

All of this aside, there is nothing like the name of the LORD. And who would not want to take on his name in baptism. Also, who would not wan the very Creator's Spirit filling him/her completely?

All the one-steppers that I know make just as much push towards the completion of Acts 2:38. However, they are unwilling to speak against Paul's testimony in Romans (and other writers).

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

I will take issue with your statement. The faith towards God is a turning towards God that is done in the believers heart by the work of the Holy Spirit. If one turns from his/her path towards God, is this not repentance? As the prophet wrote, can any two walk togther if they do not agree?

The one step position is much more tenable. Look at Paul's description of Abraham's justification before circumcision. Is not water baptism in the NT what circumcision was in the OT?

All of this aside, there is nothing like the name of the LORD. And who would not want to take on his name in baptism. Also, who would not wan the very Creator's Spirit filling him/her completely?

All the one-steppers that I know make just as much push towards the completion of Acts 2:38. However, they are unwilling to speak against Paul's testimony in Romans (and other writers).

I would not disagree. My point though is that there are OTHERS that don't agree with that. See your are proving a theological point but your point really doesn't matter because it does not destroy the point of "what others teach" that they do make a distinction, right or wrong.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

I would not disagree. My point though is that there are OTHERS that don't agree with that. See your are proving a theological point but your point really doesn't matter because it does not destroy the point of "what others teach" that they do make a distinction, right or wrong.

Would you please clarify last statement?

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

Would you please clarify last statement?

MY point was that it doesn't matter what our opinion is on this. As many baptists teach that one is saved before repentance and it's not necessary but is something we will do. Thus what I said still stands Faith is taught seperate from repentance. Would I agree? No! To me and I believe what I have clearly stated on this forum, is that Faith is a proper response to God in all things not just one thing. Thus faith is "to do" or "works"! Again, it doesn't matter what I say but that many do believe they are seperate.