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Old 08-11-2009, 03:59 PM
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Re: Talking point: Life expectancy/Healthcare rebu

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So what are your ideas for fixing it? Let's not talk about anything you're against for a while. It's easy to be against things.

What's the first step in legislation to fix the very broken things?
First thing I would do is put the individual back into the financial part of the decision making process.

Right now most people have a form of HMO insurance where they have some minor co-pay. they dont care what something cost because they arent involved.

I think all insurance should be based with an annual deductable then a co-insurance like 90-10 80-20 70-30 etc with some max out of pocket.

make everyone have a health savings account that they put money into each year to offset the thier cost with incentives to save more and spend less from that.

DO NOT LET THE GOVERNMENT HAVE OWENERSHIP OF THAT MONEY

treat it like an IRA with the funds passable to decendants

TORT REFORM BIG TIME.

reduce paperwork.

I can go on.... that might be a GREAT thread. Im swamped now with work so I cant play more but there is no question that the system needs fixing.
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:08 PM
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Re: Talking point: Life expectancy/Healthcare rebu

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First thing I would do is put the individual back into the financial part of the decision making process.

Right now most people have a form of HMO insurance where they have some minor co-pay. they dont care what something cost because they arent involved.

I think all insurance should be based with an annual deductable then a co-insurance like 90-10 80-20 70-30 etc with some max out of pocket.

make everyone have a health savings account that they put money into each year to offset the thier cost with incentives to save more and spend less from that.

DO NOT LET THE GOVERNMENT HAVE OWENERSHIP OF THAT MONEY

treat it like an IRA with the funds passable to decendants

TORT REFORM BIG TIME.

reduce paperwork.

I can go on.... that might be a GREAT thread. Im swamped now with work so I cant play more but there is no question that the system needs fixing.
I'm 100% for letting people cross state lines to puchase health insurance. I think it would cause healthy competition among insurance companies and thus lower rates.

I support continuing to increase the number of nurse practicioners for minor ailments and things that shouldn't require a M.D.'s time. It'll be cheaper and cause less wait times in doctor's offices.

I think we should explore allowing pharmacists to write some prescriptions for minor or re-occuring health issues. Britain allows it under some circumstances. It would have to be regulated to not allow narcotics and powerful drugs to be included, but if a person has a upper respiratory infection with fever why should they have to go to a doctor for prescription cough syrup?

I support the federal gov't creating a public option that would compete with greedy insurance companies and cause them to actually compete on a level playing field.

I support a centralized database which decreases the amount of paperwork required, thus less costs, and makes the entire system work more efficiently.
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:48 PM
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I'm 100% for letting people cross state lines to puchase health insurance. I think it would cause healthy competition among insurance companies and thus lower rates.
We have that. willis Caroon serves us well
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support continuing to increase the number of nurse practicioners for minor ailments and things that shouldn't require a M.D.'s time. It'll be cheaper and cause less wait times in doctor's offices.
Already have that. We have mid wifery in many states and I remember several classmates were among the first P.A's in america. One isd retiring from the VA. He is doing what most docs do. Don't need to fix that'
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I think we should explore allowing pharmacists to write some prescriptions for minor or re-occuring health issues. Britain allows it under some circumstances. It would have to be regulated to not allow narcotics and powerful drugs to be included, but if a person has a upper respiratory infection with fever why should they have to go to a doctor for prescription cough syrup?
No way. We have too many drug errors and drug info to deal with. Unless you want to increase the death rates. Even Pharm D's in my family aren't clamoring for writing scripts.
P.T's maybe. Lot's of things P.T's do if they act as sports trainers but can't do if there is insurance involved.


I support the federal gov't creating a public option that would compete with greedy insurance companies and cause them to actually compete on a level playing field.
Cut the drama Mike. Insurance companies greedy? Life insurance maybe. Sales comissions and net profit percentages are higher at Tyson meats than at a health insurance carrier. Your general business education is lacking like your medical education.
32% of health care costs are administrative overhead. Obama doesn't know that dr Offices are loaded with clerks, billings, and handlers and that will double with federal Medicine. How about 95 billion dollars to manage a health care cube farm near Washington d. c.

Mike Aetna now does many medicare plans for several states. Perot does It and processing for the Federal Government and health care,. The smae people will get more work. Costs will go up.

By the way, Aetna runs fraud software programs on it's oown products to check that men aren't getting hysterectomies on their bill etc or getting the 5th inguinal hernia repair. Medicare asks them to not run the fraud software on their accounts. go figure. So much you don't know on the inside mike.




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That will be 100 billion dollars and it will fatten GE and Intel. It is already cooking. It may add 300 billion to convert and integrate the systems
When the Federallies automate, the cost over runs are scary every time. Cerner and some regional one stop shops may integrate and get some business. Democrats want it but all privacy will be gone. All the stupid things people do will have to be on record.
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:53 PM
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A major help for the medical field would be to stop all cover for illegal aliens outside of life threatening situations. That means have your baby at home like they used to.
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:22 PM
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A major help for the medical field would be to stop all cover for illegal aliens outside of life threatening situations. That means have your baby at home like they used to.
Wow now that what I call a compassionate Christian. I wonder what Jesus would do?

If the rich republicans would be fined $10,000.00 for each illegal that they hire there would be no illegals.
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:39 PM
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Wow now that what I call a compassionate Christian. I wonder what Jesus would do?

If the rich republicans would be fined $10,000.00 for each illegal that they hire there would be no illegals.
There is a fine and it was $2,000 dollars from the 1980's. It was first assessed in D.c. at the J.W. Marriott hotel.

Blame the employers? It is easy to blame the company. That is the Liberal way. Remember the illegals use fake documents. (reminds us of Obama's birth certificate fake)

Light, you bragged about all the businesses you started. Did you remain racist and refuse to hire Hispanics?

What would Jesus do? He was pro life and voted against abortion. In fact the Virgin Mary would have been encouraged to have an abortion today.
and you want us "rich republicans" to pay for it. Soros, Bill Gates, Warren buffett are rich Democrats. Madoff is still a strong Democrat.

Light. You sure are a great poster child for hypocritts. We of course have a large church and welcome hypocrits. You have become my favorite poster child.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:34 AM
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There is a fine and it was $2,000 dollars from the 1980's. It was first assessed in D.c. at the J.W. Marriott hotel.

Blame the employers? It is easy to blame the company. That is the Liberal way. Remember the illegals use fake documents. (reminds us of Obama's birth certificate fake)

Light, you bragged about all the businesses you started. Did you remain racist and refuse to hire Hispanics?

What would Jesus do? He was pro life and voted against abortion. In fact the Virgin Mary would have been encouraged to have an abortion today.
and you want us "rich republicans" to pay for it. Soros, Bill Gates, Warren buffett are rich Democrats. Madoff is still a strong Democrat.

Light. You sure are a great poster child for hypocritts. We of course have a large church and welcome hypocrits. You have become my favorite poster child.

When you have no facts to back up your stupid statement you always fall back on abortion. You are as phony as a $ 3.00 bill. Business are not fined $2000.00 for ea. illegal. If they were it would stop them from hiring. Forged doc or not any intelligent person would do a check if the were honest when the person they are hiring cannot speak english.

Why don't you answer the question posed to you "are you against lying by ommission"?

I think the reason you don't is because you do it ever day in almost every post. You talk about hypocrites you are the shining example of one with all of the lies you post yet claiming to be a Christian.
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