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01-11-2010, 11:05 AM
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Re: Christ As High Priest Interceding Now
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Yes I understand man in Greek means human being and I understand our resurected bodies are to be physical as well as immortal or spiritual.
It does seem odd to me that being immortal would be human because in my thinking human bodies are corruptible,but I understand the concept,and I don't see us being turned into another species in our resurrected state.But obtaining an immortal body or form just seems different than our form we are in now.
But I understand what you are relating Bro.Blume.
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Yes, being immortal human beings was what God created in Genesis. Sin changed that and that is why we can only usually think of mortal when we think of humanity. But mortal humanity is fallen humanity.
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01-11-2010, 11:13 AM
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Re: Christ As High Priest Interceding Now
Bro.Blume I understand the concept,in our thinking sometimes seem odd,His ways are not our ways,you know that sort of thing you know.
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01-11-2010, 07:24 PM
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Re: Christ As High Priest Interceding Now
Picture this if you will.
Jesus sitting on the throne in the heavenlies. But at the same time He is also sitting within us also ever making intercession within us for us to make the changes in our lives as we ask in faith for Him to bring us into His Rightoeusness.
We cannot see spiritual things in the same way we see in the natural.
I kept thinking about what happened first to Peter, but then also what Jesus said after that too written in Mt. 16: 18-19 also. And about how ongoing revelations will be for those that do serve him. Then sort of saw the Lrod as doing both at the same time.
And how it is no great thing for God to do more than one thing at the same time, even though we cannot. Because God is a Spirit being and we are not.
But there is more to this than that, which has to do with baptism into Jesus Christ. Which is when you begin to abide in Him, thus being seated in those heavenly places in Him. This does not happen when you repent, does it? But when your baptized into or in His name. And until you are you do not abide in him either. But once you do, spiritually is when you begin to abide in these heavenly places in Him also. And able to come before His throne as well. But He at the same time making intercession for you, so that you can do so.
Not physically yet, as you are still here. But spiritually.
Anyway, try to picture it, and consider what I am saying. As I am really not sure whether I am explaining what I was seeing adequately either. As it is not easy to do.
Most people do not see themselves already there, because physically they are still here, which maybe is also the problem too Pastor.
Hi Bro. Strange. I have wondered what ever happened to you for a long time. Not sure you remember me, but I sure do you. Good to see you again too. As you are also one of my favorite preachers among many too.
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01-11-2010, 07:37 PM
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Re: Christ As High Priest Interceding Now
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Picture this if you will.
Jesus sitting on the throne in the heavenlies. But at the same time He is also sitting within us also ever making intercession within us for us to make the changes in our lives as we ask in faith for Him to bring us into His Rightoeusness.
We cannot see spiritual things in the same way we see in the natural.
I kept thinking about what happened first to Peter, but then also what Jesus said after that too written in Mt. 16: 18-19 also. And about how ongoing revelations will be for those that do serve him. Then sort of saw the Lrod as doing both at the same time.
And how it is no great thing for God to do more than one thing at the same time, even though we cannot. Because God is a Spirit being and we are not.
But there is more to this than that, which has to do with baptism into Jesus Christ. Which is when you begin to abide in Him, thus being seated in those heavenly places in Him. This does not happen when you repent, does it? But when your baptized into or in His name. And until you are you do not abide in him either. But once you do, spiritually is when you begin to abide in these heavenly places in Him also. And able to come before His throne as well. But He at the same time making intercession for you, so that you can do so.
Not physically yet, as you are still here. But spiritually.
Anyway, try to picture it, and consider what I am saying. As I am really not sure whether I am explaining what I was seeing adequately either. As it is not easy to do.
Most people do not see themselves already there, because physically they are still here, which maybe is also the problem too Pastor.
Hi Bro. Strange. I have wondered what ever happened to you for a long time. Not sure you remember me, but I sure do you. Good to see you again too. As you are also one of my favorite preachers among many too.
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Bro Strange has not been on the forum for quite some time now.
Anyway, I agree with you. Our hearts and the ark were both sprinkled by the blood of Jesus. Christ is in heavenly places but also in our lives. It seems the holiest and our hearts are one and the same in a wonderful spiritual manner. The bible even calls us temples, or in the Greek, most holy places, where His Spirit dwells.
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01-11-2010, 10:43 PM
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Re: Christ As High Priest Interceding Now
I see that now. This thread began some time ago.
Interesting none the less.
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01-12-2010, 08:57 AM
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Re: Christ As High Priest Interceding Now
It is interesting that Christ sprinkled our hearts as well as Heaven itself. The blood purified heaven itself. Not that heaven was unclean, but that it was sanctified for a special purpose of our involvement. Both things sprinkled with blood belong together and somehow the entire kingdom is in every believer's heart, with Christ in Heaven on the throne in our heart.
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01-13-2010, 01:55 PM
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Re: Christ As High Priest Interceding Now
Recently in the eschatology debate section I realized that Christ's high priesthood seems to be a powerful factor in determining whether or not Full Preterism is true.
If Christ is no longer ruling as Son of God, as 1 Cor 15 says He will do so until all enemies are beneath his feet, then He can no longer be high priest either. He is priest while on the throne.
So, if he has to be high priest now, then that means 1 Cor 15 is not fulfilled yet.
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