Is Obesity a Sin?

[DebraBunnyLuv]

Hey just jumping in here. I just joined AFF.

God has really been dealing w/me about food and nutrition for the last few months. The picture that is emerging is not so much a case of individuals being gluttonous but rather a nation trapped in an agricultural-industrial system that is inherently unhealthy and disease promoting.

Obesity has NOT been widespread throughout history. It's a recent phenomenon linked to a 'standard American diet' based on cheap, highly processed foods and heavy on meat and animal products. All of which is based on a system of massive government subsidies of corn, soy, wheat, etc. created during the Nixon Administration.

Massive amounts of these crops are grown and either fed to factory farmed animals (who are engineered to eat grass and get sick on the grain, necessitating tons of antibiotics) or run through complex chemical processes which create a variety of artificial additives like high fructose corn syrup. This stuff forms a cheap base for junk and processed food.

God never intended the human body to to thrive on ho ho's, big macs, coca cola, cheetos, wonder bread and Little Debbie's, MSG, chemicals you can't pronounce, genetically modified soybeans that can tolerate Monsanto Roundup poison (blah blah blah).

Anyway I could go on forever but Michael Pollan's book An Omnivore's Dilemma does a pretty good job of spelling it out. I've also heard that the documentary "Food, Inc" is a good intro. If God didn't make it, don't eat it.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by DebraBunnyLuv

Hey just jumping in here. I just joined AFF.

God has really been dealing w/me about food and nutrition for the last few months. The picture that is emerging is not so much a case of individuals being gluttonous but rather a nation trapped in an agricultural-industrial system that is inherently unhealthy and disease promoting.

Obesity has NOT been widespread throughout history. It's a recent phenomenon linked to a 'standard American diet' based on cheap, highly processed foods and heavy on meat and animal products. All of which is based on a system of massive government subsidies of corn, soy, wheat, etc. created during the Nixon Administration.

Massive amounts of these crops are grown and either fed to factory farmed animals (who are engineered to eat grass and get sick on the grain, necessitating tons of antibiotics) or run through complex chemical processes which create a variety of artificial additives like high fructose corn syrup. This stuff forms a cheap base for junk and processed food.

God never intended the human body to to thrive on ho ho's, big macs, coca cola, cheetos, wonder bread and Little Debbie's, MSG, chemicals you can't pronounce, genetically modified soybeans that can tolerate Monsanto Roundup poison (blah blah blah).

Anyway I could go on forever but Michael Pollan's book An Omnivore's Dilemma does a pretty good job of spelling it out. I've also heard that the documentary "Food, Inc" is a good intro. If God didn't make it, don't eat it.

Good post if more people truly ate right we could get rid of alot of disese like diebetis, heart failer, colesteral just to name a few. Another good book is Fit for life, can't think of the author at the moment but he has some good info.

[Eniratak]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Good post if more people truly ate right we could get rid of alot of disese like diebetis, heart failer, colesteral just to name a few. Another good book is Fit for life, can't think of the author at the moment but he has some good info.

Not exactly true. Diabetes isn't caused by being obese. There are plenty of people who have diabetes that are not fat and live healthy lives despite the fact that they have a disease.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Eniratak

Not exactly true. Diabetes isn't caused by being obese. There are plenty of people who have diabetes that are not fat and live healthy lives despite the fact that they have a disease.

Not exactly true either. Certain types ARE known to be associated with a persons overall size, such as Type B.

[Eniratak]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Not exactly true either. Certain types ARE known to be associated with a persons overall size, such as Type B.

Well yes, Type 2.
But it seems like diabetes is always associated with being obese and that isn't always the case.
So even if you 'eat right and are healthy', it won't get rid of diabetes completely.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Eniratak

Well yes, Type 2.
But it seems like diabetes is always associated with being obese and that isn't always the case.
So even if you 'eat right and are healthy', it won't get rid of diabetes completely.

Studies have proven, children who become obese and don't exercise can bring on type 2 diabetes before they reach their 20's, which has become part of this health epidemic.

Also, I have a very good freind who is a "3-4 Shots a day" diabetic. He emphatically told me, "If I get fat, I'm in trouble." Becoming obese not only escalates the diabetic condition, it can bring premature damage to vital organs and early death.

The broad range of health risks associated with being obese are known and proven, and our Country has a serious problem.

Not sure if you had a chance to watch the video I posted earlier on, but please take the time to watch it. It's short and well done.

God Bless.

[Eniratak]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Studies have proven, children who become obese and don't exercise can bring on type 2 diabetes before they reach their 20's, which has become part of this health epidemic.

Also, I have a very good freind who is a "3-4 Shots a day" diabetic. He emphatically told me, "If I get fat, I'm in trouble." Becoming obese not only escalates the diabetic condition, it can bring premature damage to vital organs and early death.

The broad range of health risks associated with being obese are known and proven, and our Country has a serious problem.

Not sure if you had a chance to watch the video I posted earlier on, but please take the time to watch it. It's short and well done.

God Bless.

As do I have a very good friend who has Type 1. My best friend actually and he was fat. He was and still is perfectly fine.

You can be fat and be healthy. I think people forget that as well.

And no, he wasn't fat because he had diabetes. The medicine he was put on put on weight that was hard to take off.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Eniratak

Well yes, Type 2.
But it seems like diabetes is always associated with being obese and that isn't always the case.
So even if you 'eat right and are healthy', it won't get rid of diabetes completely.

Haven't seen you for awhile. Get out your books and restudy on Diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is caused by the foods we eat or lack there of. In one is born with diabetes most times that will be type 1 where they need insulin. Most people (not all) that aquire deabetes later in life aquire diabetes because of the food they eat. Of course this depends on the health care provider you are talking to. Oh and yes you can get rid of diabetes type 2 non dependent with proper diet.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by DebraBunnyLuv

Hey just jumping in here. I just joined AFF.

God has really been dealing w/me about food and nutrition for the last few months. The picture that is emerging is not so much a case of individuals being gluttonous but rather a nation trapped in an agricultural-industrial system that is inherently unhealthy and disease promoting.

Obesity has NOT been widespread throughout history. It's a recent phenomenon linked to a 'standard American diet' based on cheap, highly processed foods and heavy on meat and animal products. All of which is based on a system of massive government subsidies of corn, soy, wheat, etc. created during the Nixon Administration.

Massive amounts of these crops are grown and either fed to factory farmed animals (who are engineered to eat grass and get sick on the grain, necessitating tons of antibiotics) or run through complex chemical processes which create a variety of artificial additives like high fructose corn syrup. This stuff forms a cheap base for junk and processed food.

God never intended the human body to to thrive on ho ho's, big macs, coca cola, cheetos, wonder bread and Little Debbie's, MSG, chemicals you can't pronounce, genetically modified soybeans that can tolerate Monsanto Roundup poison (blah blah blah).

Anyway I could go on forever but Michael Pollan's book An Omnivore's Dilemma does a pretty good job of spelling it out. I've also heard that the documentary "Food, Inc" is a good intro. If God didn't make it, don't eat it.

IMO, your post is absolutely on target and should be a part of any honest obesity discussion, chronic sickness and imno-deficiencies that plague our population.

Some folks have been too pre-occupied with P&G corporate ICONic pomp and likely missed Satan's coprrupting legions at Monsanto. AS A COUNTRY we have got to get labelling on any food product that contains Genetically damaged products...this will at least give the ambulance-chasing tort lawyers a motive to wear-out the profiteers of such practices.

FOOD, INC will provide you many compelling perspectives....but nothing shocked me more than the understanding that VIRUSes are the nano-infantry of bioengineering distortions.

Wormwood is a gathering storm.