Gay apostolics?

[KWSS1976]

here is a link I found: www. affirmingapostolics .com/AboutUs.html

[shawndell]

Originally Posted by KWSS1976

here is a link I found: www. affirmingapostolics .com/AboutUs.html

To be totaly honest I didnt know that we had a gay segment to our church?

[franklyn4]

If truth be told we will be surprised how many people in our churches that may be struggling with homosexual thoughts feelings or are just confused and dont know who to talk to because all they hear in church is gays=hell. And sometimes rather than reaching them before its too late, our rhetoric runs them right into that lifestyle. Young people now more than ever are exposed to homosexuality and this can be very confusing for them and the church must not only preach against it, but guard its people from it.


IMO, Homosexuality is a sin just like any other and if we were to be honest with ourselves we frown up it with a heated passion but the disdain for adultery, lying, stealing etc is not as fervent. Please understand my point. The same zeal toward homosexuality should be against all sinful conduct but we all know that we react to certain sinful behavior differently. If a minister cheats on his wife he isnt looked down upon as harsh as the minister found to be in some sort of homosexual relationship. There is a double standard and we all have to admit that and the fact that we get caught up in it rather than just applying the grace and blood of Jesus to all who repent.

So can a person be saved and struggle with sin? From my understanding I think thats the core question that is being asked. Just take out the word SIN in the question above and add any sinful act.

If "Christians" who are struggling with lying, cheating, stealing, fornication, adultery and lust repent of their sins weekly and sit right next to you every Sunday, adding a believer who is struggling with homosexuality should fit right in dont ya think? lol.

If the person is "struggling" (struggling = trying to abstain from sinful behavior but falls short at times, like we all do) i think there is hope.
But If the person is openly and intently living a sinful life to which the Bible is against (whatever that sinful behavior is) i dont think salvation is possible for him/her.

JMO

[mizpeh]

another hidden agenda?

[JEdwards]

No agenda here. Most certainly not.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by JEdwards

No agenda here. Most certainly not.

I posed a couple of questions for you, Jeff.

Feel free to answer those if you dont mind.
I wont bite.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

another hidden agenda?

Kind of seems the theme for some posters these days-or day.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Kind of seems the theme for some posters these days-or day.

Makes things much more spicier than vanilla does.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Makes things much more spicier than vanilla does.

Well I am fine with vanilla, have always liked vanilla-I guess for some folks if isn't the flavor they like it's boring!

[Rhoni]

There are many NON-practicing homosexuals in Apostolic circles, just like there are non-practicing adulterers, fornicators, liars, cheaters, pedophiles, alcoholics, ect...

When we do practice sinning...we have an advocate with the Father through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans would tell us that God's grace does not give us license to sin, therefore I find it a slap in the face of grace for a practicing homosexual to claim anything but in a backslidden condition that needs repented of.

The reprobate mindset is someone who boasts of their sin and no longer feels condemnation. So, for Jeff, and the many others through the past 5 years who have tried to get us to compromise on the sin factor, I will have to say there are some things that we cannot compromise on...this is one of them.

Blessings, Rhoni