Tithing…Is it a command?

[Neck]

If ministers would preach tithing that is one thing.

It is this sowing and God's economy thing that is......

How many stories in the bible can be turned into sermons about giving money?

Someone even preached the David and Goliath story as a way of getting out of debt....

Since when did we turn taking up the offering the main part of the service?

We went from music, offering, to sermon and hopefully alter call.

To Music (More of a concert..Not a praise service) to offering, to sermon on sowing and giving, to alter call about how Jesus wants to heal you and make you rich......

The church theme song should be the Trump song.

Money, money money...money!

I literally fell like selling everything I have...

Leave myself with a pair of tub socks, some Michael Jordan briefs, a white T-Shirt and a toothpick.

You still have to look cool after everything is gone.

Remember if you gave everything you had to God.

Then if someone gave you $20.00 it would be 100 fold to what you currently have.

Maybe that is what some are after and mean by God giving me 100 Fold.

Alright all you pastor's...

Who wants my $650,000.00 after I sell it all?

But I want a written guarantee since your principal is a fact in scripture.

Jesus came that we may have life and money more abundantly....

I will give you 18 months for the good Lord to return my $650,000.00 into 100 times the sowing...

See even Steve Munsey finishes it off with we do not know what our heavenly reward will be worth.

In knowing that we are helping the lost....

My question is? I do not think they understand who the "lost" really are?.

[gloryseeker]

Originally Posted by Neck

If ministers would preach tithing that is one thing.

It is this sowing and God's economy thing that is......

How many stories in the bible can be turned into sermons about giving money?

Someone even preached the David and Goliath story as a way of getting out of debt....

Since when did we turn taking up the offering the main part of the service?

We went from music, offering, to sermon and hopefully alter call.

To Music (More of a concert..Not a praise service) to offering, to sermon on sowing and giving, to alter call about how Jesus wants to heal you and make you rich......

The church theme song should be the Trump song.

Money, money money...money!

I literally fell like selling everything I have...

Leave myself with a pair of tub socks, some Michael Jordan briefs, a white T-Shirt and a toothpick.

You still have to look cool after everything is gone.

Remember if you gave everything you had to God.

Then if someone gave you $20.00 it would be 100 fold to what you currently have.

Maybe that is what some are after and mean by God giving me 100 Fold.

Alright all you pastor's...

Who wants my $650,000.00 after I sell it all?

But I want a written guarantee since your principal is a fact in scripture.

Jesus came that we may have life and money more abundantly....

I will give you 18 months for the good Lord to return my $650,000.00 into 100 times the sowing...

See even Steve Munsey finishes it off with we do not know what our heavenly reward will be worth.

In knowing that we are helping the lost....

My question is? I do not think they understand who the "lost" really are?.

My suggestion would be that you get into a GOOD Bible study

[Neck]

Originally Posted by gloryseeker

My suggestion would be that you get into a GOOD Bible study

I wonder if you know who I am?

Been around just tired Sheaves for Christ to move...

[Neck]

Is it a commandment?

It is now, "Send me all of your tithe".

I will take it all.....

[Scott Hutchinson]

My issue is not with giving because one should support the ministry they are getting fed the word from,and certainly should one give as they have been prospered to give,but the NT. I don't see a certain amount laid out to give.
God knows the heart and God knows our motive.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Now please understand I'm not here to hurt pastors because that is a office that God calls men to and a workman is worthy of his hire certainly.

This article has points I feel are worthy of consideration.
http://www.thewordoftruthministries.org/Tithes.htm

[NotforSale]

I was speaking with my son last night. The issue of giving stirred me to share with him the hidden manna that God bestows upon us, leaving the shallow in heart unsatisfied. In my previous post I stated God's blessings can come very disguised. I think it's important to understand this so we may express our intent on giving properly. In other words, not give to get gain, but give so God may move on us as He desires.

I asked my son, in the story of Lazurus and the rich man, who was really blessed?

Lazurus was a begger with sores, which the dogs licked. He ate crumbs for a meal, was probably very unsightly to look at, had a reputation of being rejected and was most likely a man we would look at with disgust.

On the other hand, the rich man fared sumptously every day, wore fine clothes, and lived in ease in a nice house (American dream).

The American church has clearly painted the picture of the "Rich Man" blessing. More is the result of being blessed. Less is the result of being damned (having sinned). This may not be what is actually said, but it is the hidden message.

In the end, who was blessed? Who was in the will of God?

Until we understand this, our slide will be downward. God will be the bank instead of the Creator. We will hold back what belongs to Him. This vapor of time will strangle us with, "Mine, it's all mine!" We will choose well watered plains instead of the wilderness, pitching our tent towards cities of death. We will fight over tithes, offerings, and things because this is where the blessing is. Our scales will be corrupt. Our temples will become den's of thieves. A false balance will be our way.

A few years ago when we were on the verge of bankruptcy, I laid upon the floor of my office begging God for comfort. Church problems, financial problems, mid-life changes, all this brought me to my knees. I had started an Insurance business in total faith, hoping to secure some kind of income for my wife and I. Our bank account ran dry and things looked very bleak. We were in trouble; or were we???

Looking back, I realize God did a work in me in that moment of despair which gave me eternal focus and determination. Even if all is lost, God is all that matters; I understood this in a powerful, new way. This was not the only time where the Lord corrected my way of thinking. Doing the Lord's work has been a selling out experience ever since I obeyed His command to "GO". I have experienced joy from the dungeon and have learned to sing at midnight. This will carry me to the end of this life if I'll hold dear to my heart the priceless wisdom of freefall faith; all or nothing.

I learned a great deal in Marine Corps boot camp. In this training, it was all or nothing. You gave a 110%. You sold out to the USMC. The result was total transformation. When I became a Christian in the Military, I carried this thinking into my walk with God. The World knows. They know how to make the best. Marines being the elite fighting force on Planet earth comes with a price; EVERYTHING! Underneath the pain of training, discipline, and the forsaking of a past life was the hidden blessing of real change, something recruits don't think much about.

His hidden blessings are the best. I hope I will never barter away this understanding for the counterfiet idea, more means right. If we fien from this thinking, we will fall into His arms as a little child with total confidence. This change of heart will lead us to, "Father, what is mine is Yours. Nothing will separate me from knowing You. Not the kingdoms of this world, not a job, not a church which has faltered away from You. My realationship with You has no restraint. I love you Lord, with my ALL!"

God Bless!

[Truthseeker]

One has to do alot of twisting to teach tithes is for us.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

One has to do alot of twisting to teach tithes is for us.

PTL Truthseeker,

Please don't take this wrong. I just want to ask you a simple question.

Will you sell all, take up the cross, and follow Him? If you say yes, share your experience.

God doesn't want a tenth; He wants everything. We must learn to serve Him with ALL, nothing more, nothing less. I believe you're arguing the point because you don't tithe and have hidden things in your tent.

As a pastor, I have seen this in folks and everyone who holds back the tithe has alterior motives within. Ananias and Saphira are still a part of the church today. Please check your heart. Money will bind you if you're not careful.

Give all and be set free.

God Bless, NFS

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

PTL Truthseeker,

Please don't take this wrong. I just want to ask you a simple question.

Will you sell all, take up the cross, and follow Him? If you say yes, share your experience.

God doesn't want a tenth; He wants everything. We must learn to serve Him with ALL, nothing more, nothing less. I believe you're arguing the point because you don't tithe and have hidden things in your tent.

As a pastor, I have seen this in folks and everyone who holds back the tithe has alterior motives within. Ananias and Saphira are still a part of the church today. Please check your heart. Money will bind you if you're not careful.

Give all and be set free.

God Bless, NFS

No I will not sell all, have you? My guess is your not homeless, so you probably haven't. I have a family and kids and homeless and cold is not something I'm interested in.


The tithe debate must be answered by scripture and scripture alone. Accusations and assumptions are prersumptous and dangerous.


I have no problem with tithes as a guide but all this going to hell over it stuff is great error.

I usually don't get personal on forums and like to stay on topic, buy since you said I might have hidden things in my tent, I will be say that if you teache tithes you not what the scriptures say on the subject nor given any unbias study towards.

I have tithed for years even taught it to new converts, but when I took a closer look at I discovered there is many erroneous assumptions and misintepretations of the tithe doctrine.


Ananias had nothing to do with tithes or offerings but LYING about what they sold it for, just another twist on scripture regarding tithes/offerings. Even peter it was in there power to give what they wanted.

BTW Elder nothing personal here nor am I offended, so post away with out fear of offending me, I'll do the same.