Barak Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by tstew

For example...just to illustrate my point. This is the first vote that is listed:

Establish a Senate Office of Public Integrity to handle ethics complaints against senators. January 18. (27-71) C-1

Obama's vote of Yes is in keeping with what they consider to be the votes of Liberal politicians so that is one in the "negative" ledger.

to be fair here is another

Agree to final passage of a bill implementing the 9/11 commission's homeland-security recommendations, including a provision extending collective bargaining rights to federal security screeners. March 13. (60-38) L-3
it was that last part that would have hamstrung the Homeland Security Department. and this idiot voted for it because of liberal idiology and political silliness.

Obama is a whacked out liberal who thinks LBJ and Jimmy "the idiot" Carter were great presidents!

Obama needs to be picking up dog poop in the local park, not running for president!

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by Ferd

to be fair here is another

Agree to final passage of a bill implementing the 9/11 commission's homeland-security recommendations, including a provision extending collective bargaining rights to federal security screeners. March 13. (60-38) L-3
it was that last part that would have hamstrung the Homeland Security Department. and this idiot voted for it because of liberal idiology and political silliness.

Obama is a whacked out liberal who thinks LBJ and Jimmy "the idiot" Carter were great presidents!

Obama needs to be picking up dog poop in the local park, not running for president!

You're too much, Ferd! It's good to have you back! You've been missed.

[Ferd]

Oh and while we are on the subject, he is very friendly with a known liberal TERRORIST

Growing up my daddy used to tell me "show me your friends and I will tell you who you are"

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Oh and while we are on the subject, he is very friendly with a known liberal TERRORIST

Growing up my daddy used to tell me "show me your friends and I will tell you who you are"

Fair enough Ferd.
Look at McCain's & Clinton's friends.

Some choice huh?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Ron

Fair enough Ferd.
Look at McCain's & Clinton's friends.

Some choice huh?

All of Clintons friends are dead (ie Vince Foster)

McCains "friends" and by that I mean the folk he has hung with for the last 20 years or so, tend to not be guilty of BOMING THE PENTEGON.

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Ferd

All of Clintons friends are dead (ie Vince Foster)

McCains "friends" and by that I mean the folk he has hung with for the last 20 years or so, tend to not be guilty of BOMING THE PENTEGON.

yikes, scarwy, lol

[tstew]

Originally Posted by Ferd

All of Clintons friends are dead (ie Vince Foster)

McCains "friends" and by that I mean the folk he has hung with for the last 20 years or so, tend to not be guilty of BOMING THE PENTEGON.

Ferd here is a repost of some of what I said earlier:

My point is that I am much more interested in his views than in his "connections". Some of the connections have been tenuous and incidental at best (like with Ayers), but that has been so hyped that it seems to preempt real conversation on his views. Everytime I hear Hannity rave for 30 minutes about that instead of about Obama, it makes him seem less credible and more partisan or vindictive. I want to know about his views and how he has governed and would govern.

He and Ayers are two people prominent in the Chicago political scene and have served on boards together and been at the same functions... Ayers did despicable things when Obama was in short pants (no offense dt . No one has demonstrated any more significant relationship than that.
I just am saying that when you begin to make mountains out of mole hills, people begin to wonder if there really are as many actual mountains as you may claim. Like I said I am not a supporter of any at this point but I am tired of politics and talking heads as usual.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Ferd

All of Clintons friends are dead (ie Vince Foster)

Now that's a scary thought!
Not to mention, one should keep Bill away from the White House at any cost!


McCains "friends" and by that I mean the folk he has hung with for the last 20 years or so, tend to not be guilty of BOMING THE PENTEGON.

A vote for McCain is pretty much a vote for an indirect third term of George Bush.

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Ron

A vote for McCain is pretty much a vote for an indirect third term of George Bush.

dont agree ron, mccain got beat by bush in 2000 for the nomination cause they are different, not the same, sounds like a dem parrot talking, lol

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Ron

A vote for McCain is pretty much a vote for an indirect third term of George Bush.

Ron, being a Canadian, I will give you a pass. Its likely you dont grasp the reality of American politics and what you get up there is filtered thru a Canadian centric news system.

the simple fact is, NO PERSON in the Republican party has been more ANTI-Bush than McCain.

McCain has been with the president when he felt the president was right and HARD AGAINST the president when he felt GWB was wrong.

there have been times when I felt McCain was too much against GWB other times I have agreed with McCain.

McCain has been MORE AGAINST stupid spending than Bush and McCain called for the fireing of Rumsfeld and a change in direction in the war in Iraq. on these I have agreed with McCain.

McCain opposed a number of the Bush tax cuts. On these I was against McCain.

McCain has NEVER been a guy that ANYONE could count as a "Supportive back bencher"

To suggest that McCain is effectively a 3rd Bush term, is either based in ignorance or it is willful misdirection.