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Old 06-04-2008, 01:54 PM
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my friend, "MIssion Accomplised" was the correct asessment of what those particular sailors did who were returning after that phase was over.

GWB on the deck of that Carrier STATED that the WAR was NOT over and we had a long road ahead.

this thing that you are repeating is quite a diservice to the men and women who fought so valiantly during those early days in Iraq.
Ferd as a military brat, I'm going to nip that last statement in the bud. I know from the first hand stories of my father, the frustrations of Vietnam. Most of my frustration is with the disregard for those who have fought valiantly (in freaking unarmored jeeps or walking down the street playing soccer with kids so as not to appear like an occupying force...so that they get a nice little blurb on the evening news). I'm sick of seeing kids born in the '80's having funeral services ...for what?
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Old 06-04-2008, 04:26 PM
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Ferd, it may be the koolaid but I do interpret "Mission Accomplished" as a win.
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It's possible to accomplish a mission but not win the war. A war is made up of many missions. I'm a Bush man and he is the best we've had since his dad. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he does. I don't even agree with my wife all the time but I don't tell her that. I'm no fool!!
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I'll repeat what I said somewhere before. Israel wanted change and they got Saul. Germany wanted change and they got Hitler. I'm sure this will be a change but will it be for the better? I personally don't think so. I've lived through all the presidents since FDR and have voted both sides of the ticket. I was voting before some of you were dry behind the ears and some of you before you even had ears.
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how do you know the majority of americans want the troops home ron, you are a canadian, i know hardly anyone the wants that, good night, dt
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:32 PM
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how do you know the majority of americans want the troops home ron, you are a canadian, i know hardly anyone the wants that, good night, dt
How do I know?
Well true, I haven't talked to every American, but I have seen "Polls" & we as Canadians have troops in Afghanistan & a majority of Canadians want our troops home.

They were going to come home 2009, but that was extended to 2011.
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How do I know?
Well true, I haven't talked to every American, but I have seen "Polls" & we as Canadians have troops in Afghanistan & a majority of Canadians want our troops home.

They were going to come home 2009, but that was extended to 2011.
not picking on ya buddy, as a matter of fact i just watched a coming home parade for one of our gurard units, great that they are home, but the fight must be fought, the majority of people i know want the job to be done, then we are out, by the way, we are still in germany, japan and korea, what is that now 60 yrs, dt
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not picking on ya buddy, as a matter of fact i just watched a coming home parade for one of our gurard units, great that they are home, but the fight must be fought, the majority of people i know want the job to be done, then we are out, by the way, we are still in germany, japan and korea, what is that now 60 yrs, dt
And there is pressure in those countries for the troops to leave as well.
They also are not there as an occupying power.

Don't you think that there should be a push toward Iraq sovereignty?
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And there is pressure in those countries for the troops to leave as well.
They also are not there as an occupying power.

Don't you think that there should be a push toward Iraq sovereignty?
Ron where are you getting your news? Bushisevil.com?

Dude, there is a massive push for Iraqi Sovreignty. Case in point. WE have not stolen their oil....
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And there is pressure in those countries for the troops to leave as well.
They also are not there as an occupying power.

Don't you think that there should be a push toward Iraq sovereignty?
of course, dt
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And there is pressure in those countries for the troops to leave as well.
They also are not there as an occupying power.

Don't you think that there should be a push toward Iraq sovereignty?
Iraqis need to govern themselves. Sadly, I don't see a Democracy in Iraq. I think we'll see something more akin to a coalition government where a specific religious faction keeps control.
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