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Old 05-26-2007, 02:27 PM
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Are you talking about the Statement of Faith?

That was worded in a way at the merger that both views - PAJC and PCI - could be comfortable with and live with. There was a tolerance present then that I wish was with you all still. That tolerance and acceptance of one another's differences is the reason the Merger took place at all.

So much to be said about all this. Some of you younger guys who came on the scene in a different generation don't understand some of the dynamics of all this I don't think. Where you're situated geographically enters into an overall understanding too of how things were and are today.

I appreciate you bro. I hear what you're saying.
I grew up in the Ozarks and now live in Central Illinois. I have never met a UPC pastor that would agree to what you all are saying. Never.

There should be no tolerance for variance on the New Birth message. How could their be? I mean, we are talking apples and oranges here.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:11 PM
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I grew up in the Ozarks and now live in Central Illinois. I have never met a UPC pastor that would agree to what you all are saying. Never.

There should be no tolerance for variance on the New Birth message. How could their be? I mean, we are talking apples and oranges here.
But the facts are the facts and there has always been variance on when "new birth" takes place. But repentance, baptism in Jesus name have been preached as essentials and so was the baptism of the Holy GHost with tongues evidence. It was preached very strongly to me. And we've always placed the "essental" emphasis on it to the point where we had very few in any church we pastored who hadn't received the Holy Ghost (baptism) and spoke in tongues.

Sometimes pastors won't share with one another what they really think and belief because of the "peer pressure" factor and the fact that they don't want to given themselves away in that regard.

I acknowledge the fact that most in the UPC state the new birth position in the PAJC format. We were part of the UPC as far as ministerial license for 25 years and never had any problem with exception being taken with what we taught, preached and exemplified in regard to doctrine or the AoF either.
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Old 05-26-2007, 01:29 PM
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It disturbs me when I see ex-apostolics on Televsion hawking money for the propagation of False Doctrine....

When I see ex-apostolic singers who turn their back on truth and claim anointing and propagate false doctrine...

Seems like they "sold out" to Cash in...

Claiming that their new found wealth & popularity is a sign of God's Blessings....

What think Ye??
Basically you seem to be judging people who have left Acts 2:38 and are now promoting repentance and forgiveness as people who are in it for money. There are people who have left churches and LOST money and position because of a change in belief.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:20 PM
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It disturbs me when I see ex-apostolics on Televsion hawking money for the propagation of False Doctrine....

When I see ex-apostolic singers who turn their back on truth and claim anointing and propagate false doctrine...

Seems like they "sold out" to Cash in...

Claiming that their new found wealth & popularity is a sign of God's Blessings....

What think Ye??
Methinks its sad that pentecostals watch ex-pentecostals on TV.,\
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:15 PM
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Methinks its sad that pentecostals watch ex-pentecostals on TV.,\
How do you know they are ex-pentecostals?
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:22 PM
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Methinks its sad that pentecostals watch ex-pentecostals on TV.,\
Methinks it's sad that anyone cares what other people watch on TV or if they watch it at all.
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:25 PM
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Methinks it's sad that anyone cares what other people watch on TV or if they watch it at all.
Aw now...maybe what he was really expressing is that we should be watching Pentecostals on TV, not ex-pentecostals :-)

I wonder though if it's ok to watch Methodists...

BTW anyone know if the Jehovahs Witnesses are on TV? I know the Mormons have a satellite broadcast
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Old 05-26-2007, 08:30 PM
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Aw now...maybe what he was really expressing is that we should be watching Pentecostals on TV, not ex-pentecostals :-)

I wonder though if it's ok to watch Methodists...

BTW anyone know if the Jehovahs Witnesses are on TV? I know the Mormons have a satellite broadcast
Based on who that poster was I think it is extremely doubtful this is what he meant!!!! LOL!!!
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Old 05-26-2007, 06:54 PM
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Methinks it's sad that anyone cares what other people watch on TV or if they watch it at all.
Right, just like you shouldn't care what other people post on the forum or if they post at all.
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It disturbs me when I see ex-apostolics on Televsion hawking money for the propagation of False Doctrine....

When I see ex-apostolic singers who turn their back on truth and claim anointing and propagate false doctrine...

Seems like they "sold out" to Cash in...

Claiming that their new found wealth & popularity is a sign of God's Blessings....

What think Ye??
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