Going To Trinity Churches ? - Page 2

crakjak · #11 02-16-2009, 07:11 PM

It may seem strange, Bro. Scott, but the focus in most independent churches is not on the same issue as in oneness churches. The focus where I go is on knowing Jesus and growing relationship with Him, and being light, salt and poured out wine in our world. Having community with other believers, so that the light of the "Good News" shines is our focus. Such overt obession on technicalities is amazing, instead of on the purpose of why Jesus came, and what He accomplished.

The perfect definition of the godhead is just not the focus of scripture nor the major purpose of God in the earth, OP's have made it the focus.

Sept5SavedTeen · #12 02-16-2009, 07:41 PM

I confess to enjoying church of Christ hymn-sings and gospel meetings...

But I couldn't make it my home.

-Bro. Alex

Margies3 · #13 02-16-2009, 07:46 PM

There are alot of different reasons why someone who believes Oneness doctrine would choose to go to a church that considers itself trinitarian. In my case, I do because there is no way in the world that Walt would be comfortable in an Apostolic church. Not because of the doctrinal differences. For him, like for most trinitarians, the doctrinal differences aren't even an issue. What would make him uncomfortable is the demonstrative worship. He is just much more subdued when it comes to his mode of worship.

And because I strongly feel that worshipping together with my family is important, I am not uncomfortable attending the church that we attend. IF Walt should ever decide that he would be comfortable in an Apostolic church, then yes, for sure, I would go with him. But until (if ever) that day comes, I will stay put where I am.

I have had very long conversations with our pastor regarding both Oneness/Trinity and baptism in Jesus' name/baptism in the titles. He knows exactly where I stand on both. And frankly, we are on exactly the same page as far as Oneness/Trinity goes. I do not believe we will see three thrones in heaven and neither does he. When he explains what he believes regarding the Godhead, he is almost quoting exactly the things that I was taught for years and years in the UPC. And as far as baptism goes, I've listened as he baptizes. I've heard him say, "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ". I asked him if someone wanted to be baptized just in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, would he do it? His answer was "Absolutely!"

So, see, you can't really put all trinity people in a little box and throw them out.

MrsMcD · #14 02-16-2009, 08:18 PM

I wouldn't be baptized any other way but the name of Jesus Christ but I find it hard to believe that if someone is baptized in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the holy spirit buried with Christ in baptism is hell bound. JMHO

MrsMcD · #15 02-16-2009, 08:19 PM

Sorry Brother Scott,
I just realized your topic wasn't on baptism. I guess by the time I got through reading the post, that's where my brain was.

rosebud · #16 02-16-2009, 09:23 PM

We were attending a "Trinity" church because there was no other option for us. We were pleased to hear the pastor who had come out of the Methodist church when he received the Baptism and started his own church baptize in the formula "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ"....that appeased my husband who is a three stepper and no room for anything else type person

...that being said, he is not judgmental against others but just feels that for him that is important to put it mildly! Anyway we had been attending there for about 2 years and were happy for the most part until we heard that the pastor said while preaching that "Jesus is the second person in the Godhead and don't let anyone tell you any different"

. Well that ended our time there real fast, Hubby could not handle that at all. So that was our experience for what it's worth.

OnTheFritz · #17 02-16-2009, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak

It may seem strange, Bro. Scott, but the focus in most independent churches is not on the same issue as in oneness churches. The focus where I go is on knowing Jesus and growing relationship with Him, and being light, salt and poured out wine in our world. Having community with other believers, so that the light of the "Good News" shines is our focus. Such overt obession on technicalities is amazing, instead of on the purpose of why Jesus came, and what He accomplished.

The perfect definition of the godhead is just not the focus of scripture nor the major purpose of God in the earth, OP's have made it the focus.

Good post!

Hoovie · #18 02-16-2009, 10:10 PM

So a sinner is intercepted by Jesus, has a life transforming conversion, repents calling on the name of the Lord, and determines to follow Jesus forever. He gets baptized... Jesus is preached and prayers are prayed in Jesus name. The baptism occurs - the pastor quotes Jesus (Matt. 28:19) word for word and the new convert goes under... He comes out of the water glorifying God and thanking Jesus for salvation.

Judgement day arrives. Will the LORD say, You prayed in my name - even at the baptismal service, yet my name was not spoken at the precise time of baptism... you are out on a technicality"???

Get real.

Bottom line - It is not as clear cut as many would like for it to be.

berkeley · #19 02-16-2009, 10:27 PM

Por favor! People will do more than that in Jesus' name, and He will say "depart from me..."

Scott,
I visited with the Presbyterians when I was mad at the U-Con movement!

crakjak · #20 02-16-2009, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

So a sinner is intercepted by Jesus, has a life transforming conversion, repents calling on the name of the Lord, and determines to follow Jesus forever. He gets baptized... Jesus is preached and prayers are prayed in Jesus name. The baptism occurs - the pastor quotes Jesus (Matt. 28:19) word for word and the new convert goes under... He comes out of the water glorifying God and thanking Jesus for salvation.

Judgement day arrives. Will the LORD say, You prayed in my name - even at the baptismal service, yet my name was not spoken at the precise time of baptism... you are out on a technicality"???

Get real.

Bottom line - It is not as clear cut as many would like for it to be.

I believe you got it, brother. I agree totally.