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Old 03-02-2015, 06:59 AM
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In ratifying the Constitution, each of the original 13 States bypassed even their own State governments and allowed the people to decide. The people elected special delegates for a convention to decide on ratification. The founders understood that the people in each State, and not their State governments, were the sovereigns. Nothing has changed, the people are still the sovereigns. The sovereign people of the State of Texas can call for such a convention to dissolve its ties with the USA.
I am not in favor of secession. We are a much stronger nation if we stick together.
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Old 03-02-2015, 07:39 AM
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About that succession. It appears that just having a meeting discussing the intent of doing so warrants a law enforcement raid of "armed and amored" forces from the "Bryan Police Department, the Brazos County Sheriff’s Office, the Kerr County Sheriff’s Office, agents of the Texas district attorney, the Texas Rangers and the FBI."

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In a deliberate “show of force,” federal and local police forces raided a political meeting in Texas, fingerprinting and photographing all attendees as well as confiscating all cell phones and personal recording devices.
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Members of the Republic of Texas, a secession movement dedicated to restoring Texas as an independent constitutional republic, had gathered Feb. 14 in a Bryan, Texas, meeting hall along with public onlookers. They were debating issues of currency, international relations and celebrating the birthday of one of their oldest members. The group, which describes itself as “congenial and unimposing,” maintains a small working government, including official currency, congress and courts.
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Minutes into the meeting a man among the onlookers stood and moved to open the hall door, letting in an armed and armored force of the Bryan Police Department, the Brazos County Sheriff’s Office, the Kerr County Sheriff’s Office, agents of the Texas district attorney, the Texas Rangers and the FBI.

“In the end, at least 20 officers corralled, searched and fingerprinted all 60 meeting attendees, before seizing all cellphones and recording equipment in a Valentine’s Day 2015 raid on the Texas separatist group.”
Overkill much? Ridiculous show of force to intimidate anyone from even using their first amendment rights to peacefully assemble.

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About that succession. It appears that just having a meeting discussing the intent of doing so warrants a law enforcement raid of "armed and amored" forces from the "Bryan Police Department, the Brazos County Sheriff’s Office, the Kerr County Sheriff’s Office, agents of the Texas district attorney, the Texas Rangers and the FBI."

Overkill much? Ridiculous show of force to intimidate anyone from even using their first amendment rights to peacefully assemble.

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Exactly! And some stick their heads in the sand citing paranoia. It is reality.
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I'll move to texas if they succeed.
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I am not in favor of secession. We are a much stronger nation if we stick together.
But how can we remain strong if we are throwing aside the Constitution? As one man put it, "Better for a State to leave the Union with the Constitution than to remain in the Union without it".
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you'd think the last set of civil rights the federales would want to violate would be a group like this? their lawyers are going to have a field day, i bet
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But how can we remain strong if we are throwing aside the Constitution? As one man put it, "Better for a State to leave the Union with the Constitution than to remain in the Union without it".
It's the politicians dividing us. The American people need to stand united. There are more Americans united than what the media portrays.
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