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05-10-2009, 05:26 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by Crossfire
The tithe as we know it today, is a false doctrine instituted by the Roman Catholic Church, and was brought into the true church by converts from the false religion. There is absolutely no scriptural support for this false doctrine. Teachers/Preachers/Ministers who teach this doctrine of a tax on being a believers are frauding the people of God and will stand before God for their lies.
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Do you go to Church on Sunday? Do you celebrate Christmas? Do you celebrate Easter?
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05-10-2009, 06:44 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Do you go to Church on Sunday? Do you celebrate Christmas? Do you celebrate Easter?
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Yes, I fellowship on Sunday. No, I do not celebrate pagan holy days. I actually go to church everytime I get the chance. It is not a matter of the exact date, so much as it is the worship. But, your entire argument is completely flawed.
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05-10-2009, 07:01 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Yes, I fellowship on Sunday. No, I do not celebrate pagan holy days. I actually go to church everytime I get the chance. It is not a matter of the exact date, so much as it is the worship. But, your entire argument is completely flawed.
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Instead of CROSSFIRE your name should be called, CROSSEDWIRES!
All in fun!
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05-10-2009, 08:43 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by Crossfire
Yes, I fellowship on Sunday. No, I do not celebrate pagan holy days. I actually go to church everytime I get the chance. It is not a matter of the exact date, so much as it is the worship. But, your entire argument is completely flawed.
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I didn't ask you if you "fellowshipped". I asked you if you went to Church on Sunday.
Do you accept presents at Christmas time? Do you accept the Holiday pay (money) from your job at Christmas? Do you gather with relatives during the Holiday season? Do you decorate?
Do you participate in the marriage ceremony? Were you married by traditional marriage law and vows?
Do you celebrate Birthdays?
Do you consider people who celebrate Christmas, pagan?
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05-10-2009, 09:21 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by NotforSale
I didn't ask you if you "fellowshipped". I asked you if you went to Church on Sunday.
Do you accept presents at Christmas time? Do you accept the Holiday pay (money) from your job at Christmas? Do you gather with relatives during the Holiday season? Do you decorate?
Do you participate in the marriage ceremony? Were you married by traditional marriage law and vows?
Do you celebrate Birthdays?
Do you consider people who celebrate Christmas, pagan?
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When one is confronted by their sins, one will use every excuse to validate it. This is what I am seeing in so many so-called churches today. Men are willing to stay in paganism because they love pleasing their flesh. They love preaching tithing because they love fraud and making the money.
Your questions are meaningless, NFS, because you refuse to deal with the issue of the tithe being a lie, and the preacher who demand the mandatory tithe guilty of lying on God and His Word.
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05-10-2009, 08:54 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by Crossfire
The tithe as we know it today, is a false doctrine instituted by the Roman Catholic Church, and was brought into the true church by converts from the false religion. There is absolutely no scriptural support for this false doctrine. Teachers/Preachers/Ministers who teach this doctrine of a tax on being a believers are frauding the people of God and will stand before God for their lies.
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At least hide your ignorance by saying it's Old Testament or something. We can trace tithing back, at the very least to Abraham, who was around long before the Catholic church ever existed.
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05-10-2009, 09:19 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
No, GS, your ignorance is showing quite through.
The tithe as we know it today, was an invention of the Roman Catholic Church. It was a tax levied on believers, and based upon the tenth principle of the agricultural tithe of the Old Testament. It is a farce, a lie, and a fraud to declare the mandatory payment of a tenth of one's income because one is a believer.
The Roman Catholic Church even admits their inventing of the tithe. The early church did not tithe. Those preachers who declare tithing as scriptural for the Church are frauding God's people.
If one does not believe me, look at the Catholic Encyclopedia. The online version speaks rather openly about how the RCC invented the tithe doctrine, and how the early church gave out of their heart, not of tithing.
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05-10-2009, 09:37 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by Crossfire
No, GS, your ignorance is showing quite through.
The tithe as we know it today, was an invention of the Roman Catholic Church. It was a tax levied on believers, and based upon the tenth principle of the agricultural tithe of the Old Testament. It is a farce, a lie, and a fraud to declare the mandatory payment of a tenth of one's income because one is a believer.
The Roman Catholic Church even admits their inventing of the tithe. The early church did not tithe. Those preachers who declare tithing as scriptural for the Church are frauding God's people.
If one does not believe me, look at the Catholic Encyclopedia. The online version speaks rather openly about how the RCC invented the tithe doctrine, and how the early church gave out of their heart, not of tithing.
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05-11-2009, 08:48 AM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
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Originally Posted by gloryseeker
At least hide your ignorance by saying it's Old Testament or something. We can trace tithing back, at the very least to Abraham, who was around long before the Catholic church ever existed.
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Is it about tithing or the concept? Or is it about are we accurately applying the concept? As practiced by Abraham and the Children of Israel starting with the days of Abraham. My thoughts are the way it is preached today the answer to that question is no.
The practice today is a simple 10% of your paycheck.
That is not close to the practice or the concept.
I'll let anyone who is a tithing scholar lay it out for us.
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05-10-2009, 03:50 PM
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Re: Tithing…Is it a command?
After Jesus Christ death, burrial and resurrection -- there is no command to tithe? Can anyone produce one scriptural command to tithe that was given to the NT church?
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